• SheeEttin@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I’m not really surprised. The text is Cyrillic, not something most Americans can read, and it says:

    1st Ukrainian division
    To the warriors for the freedom of Ukraine

    Nothing about the SS unit, only the dates 1943-1945 and the shield of the lion and crowns. It’s not explicit.

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      10 months ago

      Also, it’s a monument to Ukrainian soldiers who fought for the German endorsed military of Ukraine, serving with the SS. It’s a more complex story than just celebrating Nazi collaboration, because while they were definitely collaborators with the Nazis, they were doing so because they wanted a free and independent Ukraine and wanted to fight the USSR.

      So, they’re recognizing these soldiers because they fought for Ukrainian independence, not because the people supporting Ukrainian independence at the time were the Germans.

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        10 months ago

        This is going to get lost by a lot of people, but thanks for sharing a very informative, yet quick history of it all.

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          10 months ago

          You’re welcome

          To be clear a lot of the Ukrainians serving in those units were aligned intellectually with the Nazis. It’s a complex story, you know. Not all a good one.

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            10 months ago

            I had no idea Ukraine’s history until Moscow invaded them over a year ago. Since then I’ve learned a lot about Ukrainian history, which helps immensely provide better context in an area I otherwise would know very little. Still not an expert, but when you know more of the complexities like you mentioned, it helps to show the bigger picture so things end up making more sense. Thanks again.

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      10 months ago

      It’s in a Ukrainian Catholic cemetery, so I’d expect a majority of visitors could read Ukrainian.

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      10 months ago

      If you know much history, the dates and Ukrainian symbols, along with the cross should set off alarm bells.

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      10 months ago

      I mean, it’s clearly nazi symbolism without having to understand the text.