• WtfEvenIsExistence1️@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    You have socialism. Then you have capitalism pretending to be socialism ahem People’s Republic of China ahem.

    Socialism is good, State Capitalism is trash.

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      1 year ago

      Don’t even get me started on the ones who try to argue that “North Korea is more free and democratic than the US”.

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          don’t count on it. back before i switched instances i had to read hexbear users unironically praising china’s “democratic dictatorship.” highly recommend reading the wikipedia article on it; it’s actually incredibly uninformative.

          edit, to be clear, it’s a lot of describing the history of the phrase and vague ideas about the interactions between “the bourgeoisie, proletariat, and economy,” with nothing at all about how it actually is implemented into the government and differs from a regular dictatorship in any way. probably because it doesn’t. here

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            Again hearing more about tankies but never encountering them. There must be some sort of cream for all that butt hurt you people have.

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              lmao i wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that your instance defederated them. it’s 90% of what they post

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                Sounds like your instance is small as shit and other small communities dominate the conversation while the rest of us don’t give a shit.

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      also the people that say socialism is fascism are the ones slowly taking our rights away.

      You want to read what book? No we don’t like it. Who are you gonna have sex with? No we don’t like that…

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        You want water while waiting in line to vote in the same state where we shut down polling locations and tried to ‘find’ nonexistent votes? Nope, don’t like that ether!

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        Well, that or Marx purists. Marx believed that the transition between capitalism and socialism would include a period where the state was fulfilling capitalist roles and run as the infamous “dictatorship of the proletariat.”

        He never quite seems to explain how democracy arises from said dictatorship, or the people’s recourse when it inevitably corrupts.

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      Ahh thanks for the great reminder for all the tankies about communism failing for China and all these nations so they had to incorporate capitalism and allowed privatization of industries.

      USSR did it, China did it, Vietnam did it, Cuba is doing it.

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        hexbear users can’t see this comment, so it falls on my sleep-deprived ass to point out that socialist nations essentially have two options: 1) ban all capitalism and be banned from trade in turn, like Cuba and the USSR, or 2) permit some measure of capitalism, give the west its profits, and use that as leverage to gain access to trade, like China and Vietnam. You either play ball or get strangled to death.

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      Socialism can be good if the government doesn’t have to resort to totalitarianism to enforce it - and when has that ever happened? Rarely. Rarely.