4 Big Tech giants have plowed over $1 trillion into stock buybacks in 10 years — more than Tesla or Meta’s entire market value::Apple poured over $600 billion into buybacks in the decade to March 31, exceeding Alphabet, Microsoft, and Meta’s combined spending.

  • Tosti@feddit.nl
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    10 months ago

    600 billion worth of:

    • Unpaid wages
    • Fairer/Higer wages
    • Better working conditions
    • Additional jobs
    • Environmental damage averted
    • Research & development

    Why are stock buybacks not taxed at 80%?

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        10 months ago

        Going public is a way to raise money. It seems like a stock buyback would simply be a way to pay it back, at a fair market value, and eventually take back control of the company. Long-term that sounds like a good move, as then the company is no longer saddled with their primary responsibility as making money for their stockholders. Instead it can focus on the doing stuff that actually matters and is valuable for the long-term health of the company, it’s employees, and the planet… ideally.

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          10 months ago

          as then the company is no longer saddled with their primary responsibility as making money for their stockholders.

          Hah! If only that were true.

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            10 months ago

            It is true. If they are no longer a public company, they no longer have stockholders, and the fiduciary responsibility is gone.

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              10 months ago

              What I’m trying to say is, these companies don’t use stock buybacks with the intention of going private. They’re doing stock buybacks to keep the stock price high, so they continue to please stockholders.

              Stockholder pleasing is unfortunately not going away anytime soon.

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      10 months ago

      Because buybacks are already taxed at the normal capital gains tax rate. Targeting stock buybacks is stupid. Just say you want to increase corporate taxes overall. Easier and more effective at raising money.

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        10 months ago

        But this is not enough. The fact that companies put this money into the stock value itself instead of the company should be discouraged.

        I don’t understand how this is not manipulating the stock price when done at this scale.

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          10 months ago

          put this money into the stock value itself instead of the company

          It’s the same thing.

          manipulating the stock price

          It’s not because they announce it way ahead of time. Manipulation would be Apple buying a bunch of stock right before they announce the new iPhone, then selling after the announcement. That’s very illegal.

          Giving money to existing shareholders is completely legal (as long as you give it equally per share) because it’s the shareholders’ money. They own the company.

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            10 months ago

            Your example would be manipulating for the company. Stock buybacks primarily manipulate for the execs and large shareholders. Even though they have reporting requirements, they benefit from the general increases in price.

            If the company wants to give money to shareholders, they could do that in the form of dividends.

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              10 months ago

              No one is being manipulated. The company is handing the stockholders their own profits. Dividends are the same thing, just taxed differently.

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    10 months ago

    Any minute now the trickle down will start and everything will be fine. Any minute now…

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    10 months ago

    We need to go back to having buybacks be illegal. It’s money that SHOULD be spent on innovation, R&D, and more importantly, people.