Is anyone supprised?
I imagine there are at least some Adams voters out there who thought a “law and order” candidate would be totally different this time because he was black
But the truth is ACAB.
Probably should have voted based on the content of his character. Never mind they’ll have another chance to do that in four years time. Although having said that he might be up against someone whose character is even worse.
He’s gonna get reelected. He’s got a Trump-like hold over a voting bloc big enough to win the primary.
I am hopeful we can get him out. There are candidates that will primary him and with ranked choice there is a good chance to get rid of him. At least, I hope. We’ll see.
Not one lick. I knew as soon as Adams started playing that whole ‘tough on crime’ angle, that he’d Tom out for the Fraternal Orders. This is what happens when you tapdance for the settlers. More ‘criminals’, more recidivism, no rehabilitation. Adams has the blood of his own people on his hands; and I for one hope it tortures him at night when he lays his head down and tries to sleep.
This is exactly what these communities voted for. Eric Adams. He had 63% of the “non Hispanic black” vote. All the districts with the largest black populations voted for him by wide margins.
He did exactly what he promised and what he was voted to do in this case. I hate Eric Adams as much as anyone, and these injustices were obviously going to be the result of his campaign promises. I have no clue why people he would victimize would vote for him.
(Just adding for non NYers, the stats are about the primary elections, not general)
Because they’re the ones impacted by the crime this targets. Unlike the racists on the left, they don’t care that the ones this “impacts” are largely black because that’s the makeup of the areas with crime problems
Wow, if that’s the truth then Eric Adams must have high approval ratings in these neighborhoods today. Since of course, this is the only way to solve crime.
Oh wait, no. Just 29% of black voters surveyed approved of Eric Adams. 50% said they have an unfavorable view of him. That’s down substantially from earlier this year, as well. I’m sure this doesn’t matter to you and the “facts over feelings” crowd.
And guess what, everyone’s still concerned about crime. So these arrests don’t seem to be positively impacting the voters’ perception of safety.
Eric Adams is more hated than DeBlasio, and DeBlasio funneled a billion dollars into his wife and friends’ pockets and destroyed the NYC schools.
Edit just to add a fun little news story. I can go on and on about how big of a piece of shit removed Eric Adams is. Like when he compared a Holocaust survivor to a plantation owner.
You’re calling him an Uncle Tom?
Removed by mod
me. like obviously I knew this was a problem but I expected to be maybe 50% of stops being white, so would still be vastly over-representing minorities but 95% is mind boggling.
That is honestly sobering. And depressing.
Mostly sobering, because I was happily drunk before reading this.
I think we should stop and frisk on anyone with a suit that looks too expensive or in a limo. Check them for stuff like mortgage backed securities.
Is that disproportionate to the crime rate? If not, then I’m not sure how this is Mayor Adams’ fault.
One of the issues with following a crime rate is that it perpetuates discrimination.
Even if two groups have the exact same probability of, for example, carrying illegal substances, racist targeting will mean your crime rate will continue to reflect that one group “seems worse”.
You don’t spot crime where you dont look for it.
That’s why it’s important to tackle these issues and make sure there is no racial targeting.
Removed by mod
Don’t even need to imagine it when every study shows that is an accurate description.
Sure, but a lot of people need it very clearly spelled out for them.
What a wonderful, easy to understand example. Thank you for this
from the article:
Black and Latino people are “much less likely to get arrested because the stops are bogus from the get-go,”
so, no. the disproportionate number of stops is not because of differences in crime rates. but also, it should be pretty obvious that white people (who are around 30% of the NYC population) should account for more than just 5% of crimes, even considering that more crime will be committed by poor people, and that poor people will be disproportionately non-white.
Removed by mod
I was coming here to post that certain people will use this statistic to claim 95% of crime is committed by non-whites.
But I think you just saved me the trouble by demonstrating my point
Skin color has nothing to do with crime rates. You can tell if a system is racist by looking at its rates compared to demographics. Only stopping 5% white people when their population in the area is 60% is a red flag. Essential being a white criminal in that area was like being invisible.
Yes. Most studies show blacks commit a majority of the crimes but not 95% https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2022-enforcement-report.pdf
The arrest rate is around 43% for black people. White is about 17%.
The issue, though, is this is stop and frisk. It is just an excuse to stop people. It isn’t effective law enforcement.
deleted by creator
We’re not talking about arrests we’re talking about stops of pedestrians, so none of what you said after the first sentence is relevant.
The NYPD has stopped tens of thousands of pedestrians since Mayor Eric Adams took office – claiming someone “fit a relevant description” or citing a vague reason like “other.” Just 5% of them were white, revealing racial disparities even starker than at the height of former Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s “stop and frisk” era.
Holy shit, looks like some people LIKE to get race-baited. They ACTIVELY look for reasons to be baited.
First off the demographics of NYC: 39% White, 23% Black, 27% Hispanic, 13% Asian.
Secondly, the demographics for the NY Police Force: There are MORE minority Police Officers (11,700) than there are white ones (10,500). There are almost as many minority Detectives (2,200) as there are white ones (2,900).
Lastly, do we have to remind everyone who the mayor of NYC is? Newsflash, it’s this guy: https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2021/11/02/ap_21299839634856-15de819fbdc2d00eb39794e510225e27a5f60ec3-s1600-c85.webp
But with ALLLLL that, the first thing that people do is jump to the “It’S aLL RaCiSm!1!!!”.
You people need to go outside more. You are talking about one of the most diverse cities in the country, with one of the smallest populations of white people, with a police department that is made up of a majority of minority groups and a black mayor. And with all that, you immediately jump to the bullshit that racism is at place.
You don’t get a “Get Out of Racism Free” card if you’re born a minority, you know.
You misspelled victimhood. This is a city that is nearly split evenly between 3 races (roughly 30% of the population each). In that kind of place, you are not a “minority” unless you want to endlessly be called a victim because you know that will get your special treatment.
This is a place with a black mayor, with majority black police officers, and yet victims still want to cry racism.
Again, you can still enact racist policies while being of the same race as the victims. The problem is institutional, not just personal. Just because they get a black guy, or populate their strike forces with more diverse people, doesn’t mean racism is solved. It just means people like you can safely ignore the problem.
@Zorque @gAlienLifeform @Hazdaz
Too many people either don’t understand or don’t take into account systemic issues that are foundational to many institutions.
Nah, they just don’t care. They know they’ll never be in that kind of bind. They know they’ll never have to live that. So since they don’t have to, they will literally never care. As far as I’m concerned, the settler-colonial descendants have to learn tragedy and calamity like what they’ve inflicted before it can be trusted they have a lick of empathy in the corses they call hearts.
There are MORE minority Police Officers (11,700) than there are white ones (10,500). There are almost as many minority Detectives (2,200) as there are white ones (2,900).
In that kind of place, you are not a “minority” unless you want to endlessly be called a victim because you know that will get your special treatment.
Or if you’re trying to prove your point, I guess.
Also, how does the prevalent and well-documented history of black slave traders fit into this narrative of yours? Before you say they were forced into it, they weren’t.
One last question: do you also believe white people can’t be racist against other white people? Because I can show you plenty lol
Racism is a systematic issue. It doesn’t just manifest near white skin
Yes, the black mayor has told the black police officers to be racist against black people. Yup. That sure makes a whole ton of sense!1!! /s
You do realize you’re getting angry at an argument no one is claiming, right?
Were you born this stupid, or do you just drink a lot of lead paint?
I read a lot of the idiotic responses in this thread and it made my head hurt from the race-baited stupidity.
So you decided to add to the avalanche of idiotic drivel? Bc that’s what your comments are. Absolutely moronic buffoonery. You added nothing of value to the conversation, and did nothing to intelligently discuss any actual race-baiting, while performing race-baiting yourself.
Learning about, acknowledging, and discussing systemic issues is a societal duty that all adults should take seriously. But somehow I get the feeling that you see societal issues as a team sport.
Which shows a fundamental lack of intelligence (both mental and emotional), lack of care, and inability to think in a way that opens yourself up to new thought.
Educate yourself, fool.
You’re so not racist that you circled around and became racist. Minorities can be racist. The mayor being a black man doesn’t mean racism is dead you walnut. FFS has everyone forgotten NWA??
The minority officers are being racist against their own people. In your warped perception of the world that’s clearly is what is happening here.
Holy shit folks… he’s SO close to actually getting it but doesn’t…
Holy shit, you will spin whatever you want to fit you narrative that everyone is RaCiSt!1!!! Because that is what simpletons do.
You can always tell who is right in a conversation because they always call their opponent names and type like SpongeBob
You can tell who has no point in a conversation when it always collapses down to a “durrrrrr he’s rAcIsT” argument. Extra funny when the people that are called racist, are claimed to be racist against their own kind.
Extra funny when the people that are called racist, are claimed to be racist against their own kind.
claimed to be racist against their own kind
against their own kind
own kind
Why is it always the racists who claim racism doesn’t exist?
Yes, its pretty standard tactics at this point (sadly) give a couple of the minority you dont like the promise to treat them better if they come to your side so you can use them as a political piece. This is why Caitlyn Jenner has her neiche being the anti-trans trans woman on fox news.
Caitlyn Jenner should be in jail for manslaughter. But reasons.
Do tell us why white people have been stopped significantly far less than non-white people. Are non-white people just natural criminals?
deleted by creator
The minority officers are being rAcIsT against their own kind, I guess.
Please answer my question. You’re blatantly avoiding it. It’s not a good look.
It’s racism… the black cops and black mayor are being racist against black citizens. That’s what you want to hear. Clearly. That can be the ONLY answer, right?
So 40% of the population is only being stopped 5% of the time while the other 60% are stopped 95% of the time? Why didn’t you include this statistic with your others? Your superficial argument boils down to someone saying “I’m not racist. A friend of mine is black!”
