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    10 months ago

    I was suggesting that we hold the drunk driver responsible for their actions and we do not instead blame Henry Ford for his role in the proliferation of automobiles.

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      10 months ago

      Bro cars have a useful purpose other than killing people. Guns don’t provide nearly the same utility as a car, and arguably no positive utility at all, in modern society.

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        Don’t forget they are also heavily and continuously regulated to reduce the danger to society whenever possible.

        Isn’t it incredible what you can accomplish when you don’t have a self-absorbed death cult insisting they know best?

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          Don’t forget they are also heavily and continuously regulated to reduce the danger to society whenever possible.

          Yes. There are laws governing the operation of motor vehicles on public roadways.

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        Guns don’t provide nearly the same utility as a car, and arguably no positive utility at all, in modern society.

        Law enforcement seems to think otherwise.

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            10 months ago

            Not in many nations. Only here.

            Police carry firearms in about 170 countries. There are about 20 countries in which they do not.

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            10 months ago

            You said cars have a useful purpose other than killing people. I don’t dispute that. What do you feel that I should address?

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      We had this conversation actually, about a hundred years ago, that’s why you can’t just buy a car at a car show and drive it on public roads without a test, a license, and without following the rules. If Henry Ford fought more vigorously at the time, we wouldn’t have this rules, and then all the excessive deaths would be his fault also. In fact, a lot of the problems with car culture in US can be traced to specific people and companies, and they have a big portion of responsibilities for excessive deaths.
      And that’s talking about a car, a car’s primary usage is not a murder. You don’t need to overcome any of those hurdles to obtain and operate a firearm in a lot of cases, and the firearm’s primary purpose is to kill, so it’s even less excusable.

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        you can’t just buy a car at a car show and drive it on public roads without a test, a license, and without following the rules

        I don’t have a problem with requiring training and a license to carry a firearm in public.

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          And then we come to the second part of it. Why do you ever need to carry a firearm in public, what purpose can it server in a society, what problem it solves

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            Why do you ever need to carry a firearm in public

            Why do you ever need to carry pepper spray in public? Do you believe that we should prohibiting carrying pepper spray in public as well?

            what purpose can it server in a society, what problem it solves

            Do you think we ought to ban everything that does not solve some problem in society, such as recreational drugs?