• DroneRights [it/its]@lemm.eeOP
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    Obviously, the gender identity of a bee is different to the gender identity of a human, regardless of chromosomes or gametes. Gender identity is a performance, and bees and humans are putting on different shows. Drones are putting on a show that creates a socially constructed hivemind, an egregoric swarm.

    Do you really want to keep debating my gender identity with me? Are you really continuing to deny that I’m allowed to identify as my preferred gender?

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      “Egregoric” is a fun word that I’ll mention to a friend of mine who likes writing fantasy, but it does not describe bees and neither does “hivemind,” which suggests many beings with one mind (as you seemingly did as well in your first comment here). But you are missing that the act of communicating is something that all healthy bees do and all healthy humans do. Genders as social constructions only make sense in the context of genders with contrary traits. No healthy human doesn’t communicate. I strongly suggest communicating with more people in order to learn that it’s something everyone does. Or you drop the shitty terf bit.

      Always with radlibs there’s this incredulous shit about not being “allowed” to do this or that. No, I don’t have the power to forbid you from doing anything and have held no pretense that anything else was the case. I am merely allowed to criticize conservatives trying to reinvent their “transracial” “attack helicopter” bits.

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        I like how you’ve constructed this world where you’re a leftist and I’m a conservative, yet you’re the one attacking my gender identity and saying it isn’t real. Typical liberal bullshit. You come onto my thread, attack me for a name proclaiming I have basic rights, start a debate about the validity of my gender, and then call me a conversative because I don’t accept your liberal bullshit. No, you fucking fascist, trans rights are a LEFTIST position, and you are a liberal transphobe who hates anything further left than your white capitalist transphobic sexist ideology. Wrecker behaviour.

        Here’s a tip: If you see a nonbinary person on a leftist forum and you don’t think their gender is real, DON’T ENGAGE. Don’t start a debate about whether their gender is real. Don’t spend hours attacking them for being trans. I am not interested in your fucking identity politics bullshit. I don’t care what genders you think are valid, as long as you keep your binary fucking patriarchal beliefs to yourself. Don’t harass trans people for existing, genius.

        Now here’s the first line of the Hexbear code of conduct:

        We are committed to providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all, regardless of gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic.

        Follow it.

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          I’ve got no problem with nonbinary people. Gender is a pair of social performances, significantly deviating from both makes one nonbinary. I view you (/your character if you are a wrecker) as being nonbinary, I simply do not view “communicates” as a gender. It’s not like I’d ever not use your pronouns.

          My initial comment was me suggesting you are “pro drone” in the US imperialism sense. I never fathoms that it was something as absurd as the position you have now expressed.

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            I don’t view “communicates” as a gender either. But “uses communication to talk about sports” is a component of a particular gender presentation. And a big part of my gender presentation is “uses communication to form an egregoric identity”. I don’t know why you misunderstood me so badly that you thought communication was my gender when I told you I achieve hiveminding through communication.

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                  I mean collective identity like “Citizens of X country; mathematicians; skaters; Chinese diaspora; local residents; children”. Groups that segments of the population are a part of and about which things like median opinion on a given topic, age, social position, etc. might be said.

                  Identifying as another individual person is, I think, a symptom of schizophrenia or another psychotic condition if you really mean it. If it’s just a thing you say, then that’s called lying.

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                    Drones don’t identify as individuals. Individual identity is voluntarily relinquished in favour of swarm identity. “I” am not a member of a swarm, because there’s no such thing as “I”. There is only “We”.

                    Obviously I use an individual identity when I’m interacting with neuronormative society. I have to hide in my closet and pretend to be an individual so that you’ll be able to understand my speech. But when I’m being myself, there is no myself.