Dmitri Kovalevich is the special correspondent in Ukraine for Al Mayadeen English. He writes monthly situation reports as well as occasional special reports, including the following.
The new draft law on the mobilization of workers is intended to “ensure the functioning of the national economy under martial law”, in the words of those drafting the law. It is noteworthy that in early August, Ukraine began to talk about a likely ban against military conscripts leaving the country for three years following an eventual end to military hostilities and martial law.
How exactly is Russia’s bombs the only factor in the Ukrainian government imposing labour conscription on their people? Surely if they’re so democratic, they could’ve found some other way to go about fixing the labour shortage.
We can go all the way back to Gorbachev and we won’t find a single root cause of this present situation, but instead many different factors. But I see no reason to assume that the Russian SMO on the DPR and LPR is the sole, deterministic cause of this labour conscription, disregarding all agency of the Ukrainian government and NATO on their own internal policy matters. Japan might’ve started the war against the USA in WW2, but I don’t think it removes the agency of the USA government from putting their Japanese-Yankee citizens in internment camps or nuking Japan twice.
What the other comment seems to imply is that all the issues there are caused solely by Russia’s participation in the Donbas War, disregarding how the article goes in detail about how those things listed (such as the labour draft) are policies made by the Ukrainian government. It is clear as day that the Ukrainian government values retaking the east and privatising its property much more than the lives of the citizens they claim to protect.
We can go all the way back to Gorbachev and we won’t find a single root cause of this present situation
Russian imperialism, there you go. It’s both funny and sad how you communists get so blinded by the US hate that you automatically go for “Russia good”, even though it’s an authoritarian kleptocracy with no relationship to communism.
What the other comment seems to imply is that all the issues there are caused solely by Russia’s participation in the Donbas War
Yes, that’s the prime determinant of the current situation.
It is clear as day that the Ukrainian government values retaking the east
Ukrainian government is still fighting for the existence of the Ukrainian state and against genocide of the Ukrainian identity.
Wow, I had never considered before that Russia might be in the war. \s
Yeah, if you see every geopolitical conflict this simplistically, you’ll often find that the exact group you already dislike is the cause of all your problems. There’s no other way this could’ve gone, the moment Putin got in power we could already all predict that Zelensky would be elected and that his government would ban all men aged 18 to 60 from fleeing the conflict. It was also similarly inevitable that there would be mass conscriptions not only for war but also for work. Tangentially nobody but Putin had any impact on whether Azov would be formed or on the war against the Donbas separatists.
This was all solely the fault of a single group and nothing anybody else could’ve done. Come on now, child, you know that politics is not as simple as that. And if you think I somehow think that “Russia good,” because I criticise the other side of the war, you might need to read some history of bourgeois wars. It’s a reactionary liberal bourgeois country, just like the USA, but much smaller, less entrenched, and with some opposing interests, if you want my opinion on them. It’s not really relevant though.
Yes, that’s the prime determinant of the current situation.
So could Ukraine not find other solutions to their present crises? Off the top of my head, accepting Russia’s ceasefire requests, letting their civilians leave and not demanding that every worker also present their conscription documents in order to work, all sound like pretty good initiatives to combat the labour shortage. But no, obviously the Ukrainian govt has no agency on their own country and it’s all only in Russia’s court.
Ukrainian government is still fighting for the existence of the Ukrainian state and against genocide of the Ukrainian identity.
No they aren’t. The Ukraine state has had it’s existence guaranteed by Russia so long as they concede defeat and allow the independence of the eastern separatists. Besides that, just also not joining NATO. Russia has shown very little interest in annexing the entirety of Ukraine and the Ukrainian identity is safe and sound within the conscript dictatorship of Ukraine. If anything, the NATO puppet government probably has more Ukrainian blood on their hands than Russia for insisting on this lost war for the past 1 year.
But do spell it out then. How is Ukraine’s draft only Russia’s fault, with no responsibility for it at the Ukrainian government’s/NATO’s feet? I’d be happy to hear it.
Of course, it could have gone differently. Putin’s mother could find a different lover and the world would look differently. Putin’s mother is therefore one of the causes, just like the infinite amount of other factors.
What you’re doing now is the equivalent of analyzing why a certain woman got raped. Factor 1, she’s single, no husband to protect her, factor 2, she went to the club, factor 3 she wore a short skirt … You’re desperately trying to analyze the “factors” to shift the attention, and the blame from the rapist.
So could Ukraine not find other solutions to their present crises?
“So could the woman do something differently to avoid being raped?”
Again, victim blaming.
The Ukraine state has had it’s existence guaranteed by Russia so long as they concede defeat and allow the independence of the eastern separatists.
And the “de-nazification”, de-militarization, ceding Kherson and Zaporozhija Oblast in addition to Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts, no NATO or other protection. You end up with a rump state just like Czechoslovakia after Munich decree, helpless and ready to be re-invaded (March 1939).
Putin’s mother is therefore one of the causes, just like the infinite amount of other factors.
This war would happen with or without putin, the war is due to the collapse of the soviet union, the far right Ukrainian coup, and the Ukrainian government bombing their own people for almost a decade.
I usually don’t link wikipedia because I assume it’s beneath the level of interest and knowledge of people on forums, but you clearly have some homework you need to do. So here:
How exactly is Russia’s bombs the only factor in the Ukrainian government imposing labour conscription on their people? Surely if they’re so democratic, they could’ve found some other way to go about fixing the labour shortage.
You really don’t see how it’s a consequence of the invasion?
We can go all the way back to Gorbachev and we won’t find a single root cause of this present situation, but instead many different factors. But I see no reason to assume that the Russian SMO on the DPR and LPR is the sole, deterministic cause of this labour conscription, disregarding all agency of the Ukrainian government and NATO on their own internal policy matters. Japan might’ve started the war against the USA in WW2, but I don’t think it removes the agency of the USA government from putting their Japanese-Yankee citizens in internment camps or nuking Japan twice.
What the other comment seems to imply is that all the issues there are caused solely by Russia’s participation in the Donbas War, disregarding how the article goes in detail about how those things listed (such as the labour draft) are policies made by the Ukrainian government. It is clear as day that the Ukrainian government values retaking the east and privatising its property much more than the lives of the citizens they claim to protect.
Russian imperialism, there you go. It’s both funny and sad how you communists get so blinded by the US hate that you automatically go for “Russia good”, even though it’s an authoritarian kleptocracy with no relationship to communism.
Yes, that’s the prime determinant of the current situation.
Ukrainian government is still fighting for the existence of the Ukrainian state and against genocide of the Ukrainian identity.
Wow, I had never considered before that Russia might be in the war. \s
Yeah, if you see every geopolitical conflict this simplistically, you’ll often find that the exact group you already dislike is the cause of all your problems. There’s no other way this could’ve gone, the moment Putin got in power we could already all predict that Zelensky would be elected and that his government would ban all men aged 18 to 60 from fleeing the conflict. It was also similarly inevitable that there would be mass conscriptions not only for war but also for work. Tangentially nobody but Putin had any impact on whether Azov would be formed or on the war against the Donbas separatists.
This was all solely the fault of a single group and nothing anybody else could’ve done. Come on now, child, you know that politics is not as simple as that. And if you think I somehow think that “Russia good,” because I criticise the other side of the war, you might need to read some history of bourgeois wars. It’s a reactionary liberal bourgeois country, just like the USA, but much smaller, less entrenched, and with some opposing interests, if you want my opinion on them. It’s not really relevant though.
So could Ukraine not find other solutions to their present crises? Off the top of my head, accepting Russia’s ceasefire requests, letting their civilians leave and not demanding that every worker also present their conscription documents in order to work, all sound like pretty good initiatives to combat the labour shortage. But no, obviously the Ukrainian govt has no agency on their own country and it’s all only in Russia’s court.
No they aren’t. The Ukraine state has had it’s existence guaranteed by Russia so long as they concede defeat and allow the independence of the eastern separatists. Besides that, just also not joining NATO. Russia has shown very little interest in annexing the entirety of Ukraine and the Ukrainian identity is safe and sound within the conscript dictatorship of Ukraine. If anything, the NATO puppet government probably has more Ukrainian blood on their hands than Russia for insisting on this lost war for the past 1 year.
But do spell it out then. How is Ukraine’s draft only Russia’s fault, with no responsibility for it at the Ukrainian government’s/NATO’s feet? I’d be happy to hear it.
Of course, it could have gone differently. Putin’s mother could find a different lover and the world would look differently. Putin’s mother is therefore one of the causes, just like the infinite amount of other factors.
What you’re doing now is the equivalent of analyzing why a certain woman got raped. Factor 1, she’s single, no husband to protect her, factor 2, she went to the club, factor 3 she wore a short skirt … You’re desperately trying to analyze the “factors” to shift the attention, and the blame from the rapist.
“So could the woman do something differently to avoid being raped?”
Again, victim blaming.
And the “de-nazification”, de-militarization, ceding Kherson and Zaporozhija Oblast in addition to Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts, no NATO or other protection. You end up with a rump state just like Czechoslovakia after Munich decree, helpless and ready to be re-invaded (March 1939).
my god you’re daft.
Sorry it didn’t work out, your manipulation tactics are just too easy to see through.
fr fr you got me there, I’m so owned lmao
This war would happen with or without putin, the war is due to the collapse of the soviet union, the far right Ukrainian coup, and the Ukrainian government bombing their own people for almost a decade.
There was no bombing in Ukraine at all until Russia invaded Ukraine.
Also, who would have guessed that a Stalinist cares about civilians, lol.
I usually don’t link wikipedia because I assume it’s beneath the level of interest and knowledge of people on forums, but you clearly have some homework you need to do. So here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas_(2014–2022)