• atlasraven31@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    How do you sort out who rightfully deserves the reparations and who should rightfully pay because of past slave ownership?

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      10 months ago

      Reparations should be given not in the form of direct monetary payments, but massive investment in black communities and especially schools and scholarships. All black people in America suffer from systemic racism, so build a system they all benefit from regardless of who their ancestors were. Giving out monetary reparations won’t solve any problems. This system will provide permanent benefits to all current and future black Americans.

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      10 months ago

      The same way the Jews got reparations for the Hollocaust

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        10 months ago

        Reparations for the Holocaust were only given out under certain circumstances and did not cover everyone that deserved it. I know because my grandparents were survivors. People in certain ghettos got it and not others. It was not well implemented because refugees were all over the place. Reparations for slavery are ridiculous at this point. What we need is better education and mentorship in low-income communities regardless of race.

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          10 months ago

          It is not only for slavery, but for Jim Crow, segregation and systematic racism. And sorry (not sorry), but black people should be the ones deciding whether they want reparations or not, not white people deciding for them wether they are ridiculous or not.

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            10 months ago

            Neither black nor white people should decide whether they get money but common sense/moral integrity should decide

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              10 months ago

              So black people dont get to decide on whether they get reparation after generations of stolen wealth? Yeah, that sounds like racist right wing propaganda bullshit.

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            10 months ago

            As someone of Jewish heritage, my grandparents got off a refugee boat with no money and many dead family and dealt with systemic racism as well, however within one generation we are all living comfortably enough to not loot stores and do other dumb gangster shit. I feel like there is something else at play. Jim Crow ended in the mid 60’s. These people had practically a whole lifetime to catch up. It’s a cultural issue. They have shitty values. Not everyone, but a lot of them. Playing victim or criminal does not fix the problem. If they want respect, they should earn it like everyone else. I don’t respect looters.

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            10 months ago

            Damn, I don’t know what you’ve started here but the number of presumably white people coming up with all sorts of reasons to argue why black people shouldn’t have reparations is… is it a white settler moment? Then to follow this up with ‘you need to include white people or they’re not going to like it’ is… maybe Malcolm X was onto something about white liberals.

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    10 months ago

    The tough issue is that while they did end slavery they never changed ownership and slaves didn’t own anything so all the people in this thread arguing how to identify actual victoms are idiots! It’s the same debate we have with cononialism just on a far smaller scale and there is no easy solution but none isn’t sufficient ether!

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        10 months ago

        True, especially considering the way they use it and the reasons they might make you one for!