• oessessnex@programming.dev
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        11 months ago

        On a phone with spyware installed that wouldn’t do anything. There are probably ways to get rid of it, but how can you be sure?

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          11 months ago

          By checking whether the bootloader is unlocked or not. If the bootloader is unlocked, then all bets are off, but if the bootloader is locked, you can only run the original, unmodified firmware. Any alternation to the firmware will result in the dm-verity check failing, causing the system to not boot at all. The only data which can be altered is user data, which is wiped in a factory reset. So a factory ressr definitely gets rid of it.

          If you’re paranoid though, you could always flash the stock firmware downloaded directly from the manufacturer’s website, which will override all system partitions, so you can be absolutely sure there’s no spyware - besides the spyware included by Google etc of course, or the spyware embedded into the hardware by the chip manufacturers…

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            11 months ago

            Those usually are made to persist after factory reset. The phone is rooted and factory reset is modified to not remove the bad software.

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              11 months ago

              And rooting the phone requires an unlocked bootloader, which would present a warning when the phone is booted up.

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                  11 months ago

                  Yes it will. There’s no way to bypass it, if there is, that would be a serious security flaw - the kind that would get patched very quickly. There have been some phones which had a vulnerable bootloader that allowed this in the past (eg: OnePlus devices), but there’s no such exploit available for current generation devices

                  I’d like to see some sources backing up your claim, which is applicable to current generation phones.