• moody@lemmings.world
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    10 months ago

    One is covered in heat-resistant silicone, the other is covered in flammable wax.

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      Silicone isn’t what makes parchment paper heat-resistant (and isn’t even used on most standard parchment papers). Cellulose pulp is treated with sulfuric acid to cross-link the cellulose molecules, making them more chemically and thermally resistant, and the result is parchment paper.

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        I would prefer you to be correct, because I am reading other comments that say some parchment paper is teflon coated. PFA pollution arising from PTFE production for pots and pans is bad enough, but to use Teflon on a consumable item should be an obvious “ban the fuck out of it already” action item. I mean, all PTFE production should be banned based on what we’re learning about PFAs, but for fucks sake, disposable items? EDIT: google says the vast majority of parchement paper is silicone coated, not teflon coated like one German asserts in another comment in here.

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            Yes. I know. I am rereading my comment trying to figure out how you and your upvoters think I have the two confused, and I am coming up empty.

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              Because the only comment that mentioned Teflon wasn’t a part of this comment chain, so your response feels like a total non-sequitur in the context of this particular comment chain. I assume you were responding not just to the original comment in this chain, but also to the other unrelated comment about German baking paper being Teflon-coated (which was incorrect), but without anything directly connecting the two comments it just seems like you went off of an unrelated tangent.

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      WTF. I never knew this. All this time I thought I was being responsible using parchment paper. I did not know it was silicone coated damnit. Need to look for other options now.

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    It’s really grocery stores fault. They sell them right next to each other and often have like 8 different brand choices of one but only 1 or 2 of the other which is nestled somewhere inbetween the others.

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      It’s an American language fault. Parchment paper is called baking paper elsewhere. You can’t make a mistake when choosing between baking paper and non baking paper.

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        I was reading this and thinking how come you even have two papers to choose from. Baking paper goes in the oven and parchment… isn’t that like an animal skin you write on? I don’t think I’ve ever used wax paper for anything, so I can’t imagine what that’s for.

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          Wax paper is non-stick so has a lot of different uses as long as you aren’t heating it up. For example you could put some down while you roll out cookie dough if you don’t want to clean flour off your countertop. Can use it to make decorations for your baked goods like chocolate strings or something similar. Drizzle the melted chocolate on the wax paper and once it cools and hardens it will come right off.

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            I think I may have heard of that stuff. Something like 70 years ago people used to buy food items in bulk, so you needed to package your block of butter somehow. Wax paper was used back in those days. Since food manufacturers started packaging the products, the demand for wax paper dropped to near zero, so that’s why you don’t really encounter it much any more.

            I’m sure some stores still sell it, but baking paper is so easily available that people just use that instead. Nowadays people would just use baking paper for the examples you just gave.

            Edit: just went to the local supermarket and I found 15 stacks of normal baking paper on the shelf (at least 8 different brands) and one stack of wax paper. Apparently it hasn’t disappeared completely. Someone must be still using it for something.

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        I’m just glad I live in an area that calls carbonated beverages “pop”. I can only imagine the mix-ups that could’ve occurred when trying to use baking soda otherwise.

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      And I have yet to see a single one with a giant badge that says “not for oven use!” Moreover, wax paper is always marketed as “microwave safe.” I know a microwave is not an oven, but it’s not ludicrous to equate the two.

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    Also each of them resists different type of foods better. Wax paper will hold up to wet food, and parchment paper holds up better to oily food.

    This is not anything I can prove just personal experience so take it with a grain of salt

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      I recently got “food wrapping paper” for bundling up sandwiches, it is still coated but has just enough stickiness left for tape to hold it shut.

      Previously I was using parchment paper and if you wanted to hold it shut you needed to use a rubber band or run the tape all the way around to stick back to itself.

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    Image Transcription:

    Tumblr post by user turing-tested: guess who just found out the difference between wax paper and parchment paper the hard way Reply by user vraska-theunseen: wait what’s the difference? Reply by user turing-tested: one you can use in the oven safely and the other you can also use in the oven if the thing you are trying to make happens to be fire

    [I am a human, if I’ve made a mistake please let me know. Please provide alt-text for ease of use. Thank you. 💜]

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        They are a bit. Kinda wish they were a tiny bit more rigid. That said, you can have my silpats when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.

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        I usually push the sheet liner against the vertical side of the sink where it is flat to wash. Wash one section at a time, both sides. Takes about 30 seconds.

        Though, this may be the technique you are using, and it may be a pita.

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        Wealthy people fly their private jets to get cigarettes, I’m not losing sleep over my baking sheet liners I’ll probably have for the rest of my life.

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    In Germany we just take regular “Backpapier” (literally “baking paper”) and put it in the oven.

    It’s basically just Polytetrafluroethylene, better known as PTFE or Teflon™

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      You’re telling me that one of the reasons that water is globally polluted with PFAs is because Germans love David Hasselho… I mean, because German parchment paper is coated in Teflon? EDIT: google says that the vast majority of parchment paper is silicone coated, not teflon. I was starting to get a justice arrhythmia, I can calm down a bit now.

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        I’m sorry. I don’t mean PTFE, but PFOA, but apparently it’s forbidden since 2021. I’m sorry for spreading outdated information

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          Jokes aside, apparently it’s not teflon on parchment paper. Even if it was, it’s not the teflon itself, it’s the manufacturing of it that is problematic in terms of PFAs. Apparently also high heat is sufficient to cause Teflon to degrade and PFAs to be released. It’s crazy that it is still being used in cookware at all. I switched over to cast iron and Asian-grocery store brand stainless cookware, though my new air fryer has teflon and I’m suffering from sunk-cost fallacy in relation to it.