Without opening a discussion about the conflict itself or justifying anything in the article, I will say that as someone who’s been on the receiving end of an adult throwing 5-10 pounds rocks at full strength at them, I truly think you’re underestimating the deadly damage it can cause.
This isn’t a toddler throwing pebbles, such a rock hitting a human will break bones on contact and can absolutely kill of it hits someone’s head
Civilians walking around or driving in cars? No they don’t.
Even for the army with gear on, it will generally save their lives when hit in the right spot, but the stones will still cause injuries wherever they hit.
Oh I know rocks CAN be deadly. But so can lots of things. From the info in the article they were throwing rocks at cars, not IDF forces who are undoubtedly armoured to the teeth for greater stopping power than rocks.
Just seems strange to shoot someone for not obeying when they aren’t directly threatening you, but the article is a bit light on actual details. Being the source that it is, I don’t think they would hesitate to highlight the IDF were defending themselves if they actually were.
Using a deadly weapon in a manner that can cause death is much worse than possessing a deadly weapon. You think people in cars haven’t died from stone throwers before?
I don’t understand this logic. IDF literally shooting someone is somehow less of a “use of a deadly weapon in a manner that can cause death” than throwing a stone at a car?
I get that they deemed the person dangerous, but shooting someone for throwing a stone is a slippery slope to all sorts of things, eg. Kettled protesters who start throwing stones at riot police. Should the police just mow them all down because rocks can be deadly?
The actual procedure is actually calling the suspect to stop, first in Hebrew, then in Arabic, if the suspect does not stop then the soldier loads a round in the chamber, next a warning shot to the air, and then shooting at the suspect’s legs, all the while calling for the suspect to stop.
IDF has a tendency to… Expedite this procedure.
Seems like a slightly harsh procedure to arrest someone with stones as their weapon.
Without opening a discussion about the conflict itself or justifying anything in the article, I will say that as someone who’s been on the receiving end of an adult throwing 5-10 pounds rocks at full strength at them, I truly think you’re underestimating the deadly damage it can cause.
This isn’t a toddler throwing pebbles, such a rock hitting a human will break bones on contact and can absolutely kill of it hits someone’s head
I mean true enough but don’t they wear protective gear?
Civilians walking around or driving in cars? No they don’t.
Even for the army with gear on, it will generally save their lives when hit in the right spot, but the stones will still cause injuries wherever they hit.
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Oh I know rocks CAN be deadly. But so can lots of things. From the info in the article they were throwing rocks at cars, not IDF forces who are undoubtedly armoured to the teeth for greater stopping power than rocks.
Just seems strange to shoot someone for not obeying when they aren’t directly threatening you, but the article is a bit light on actual details. Being the source that it is, I don’t think they would hesitate to highlight the IDF were defending themselves if they actually were.
Using a deadly weapon in a manner that can cause death is much worse than possessing a deadly weapon. You think people in cars haven’t died from stone throwers before?
I don’t understand this logic. IDF literally shooting someone is somehow less of a “use of a deadly weapon in a manner that can cause death” than throwing a stone at a car?
I get that they deemed the person dangerous, but shooting someone for throwing a stone is a slippery slope to all sorts of things, eg. Kettled protesters who start throwing stones at riot police. Should the police just mow them all down because rocks can be deadly?
Why do you keep using arguments where stones are being thrown at police/army? These stones were being thrown at unarmed, unprotected humans.
Stop being disingenuous. The rocks were thrown at cars. They weren’t interrupting a public stoning.
Do you know how many people died from rocks thrown at cars? I’m not talking hypotheticals, I’m talking real deaths and injuries.
Do you? I’d wager it’s considerably lower than deaths from shootings involving figures of authority.
The actual procedure is actually calling the suspect to stop, first in Hebrew, then in Arabic, if the suspect does not stop then the soldier loads a round in the chamber, next a warning shot to the air, and then shooting at the suspect’s legs, all the while calling for the suspect to stop. IDF has a tendency to… Expedite this procedure.
That’s good additional info.