Back in the day this was even better:
Original Galaxy S battery was getting weak? Order a new battery from Amazon for 13€. Battery arrives, pop the back of the phone off, pull battery out (just like that, no soldering), push new battery in. Push the back of the phone back on, done.
New battery in and it had more mAh than the original one. Despite overclocking that phone it ran a day longer after the replacement.
Thanks for reminding me of how I used to never worry about battery life cause the moment one got low, I’d just pop a spare out of my backpack and continue on with my day. Batteries were so freaking cheap!
You even had official charging stands that had slots for the extra battery so you could charge everything at once overnight
I have an Anker powerbank for that, if my phone ever gets low I just plug it in in my bag.
Though it never got this far to be honest, my Galaxy S22 lasts for 2+ days (so charging it in the evening for half an hour is usually enough to never worry about battery).
Bought the powerbank 6 years ago to play Pokemon Go (go figure), but then they removed the steps feature (showing you how far away you are from the Pokemon, leading to people actually hunting them down instead of sitting around in one spot) and I stopped playing (:
Still, plugging in for an hour or more vs just popping a new battery in n having a full charge instantly is not comparable.
Plugging in is less trouble. You still have to pop open the cover, switch batteries and pop the cover back on. And Android takes like a full minute to boot back up. Just plugging a cable in and waiting for 20-30 minutes is more chill. Or you load it over night when you sleep.
The only reason why I’d want a swap-able battery would be cheap battery replacement when the old one is giving out :)
And Android takes like a full minute to boot back up.
Yeah, I miss my brick Nokia’s quick startup time… I think there’s a way to avoid the shutdown problem.
- Hibernation mechanism, known from PCs, could be ported to Android. This way you can pick up where you left off before swapping the battery. Seriously, I hate losing all unread notifications after a reboot. Who the hell though that’s a good idea?
- Hot swapping battery, which means that you can change one half of the battery, then the second half and the phone won’t shut down at all. Foldables make it easier since they already use 2 batteries, 1 for each half. Just wire them up in parallel and the voltage won’t drop when one is taken out for replacement by the user.
great for you, doesn’t spund great for the environment, I like the push for replaceable batteries, but surely battery banks are a better solution since they are universal
Agreed for general use, but for people who just replace the entire phone instead of replacing the battery, it will reduce the waste of all the rest of the phone for some time.
Charging the internal battery from an external one loses a lot of energy, battery charging is very far from 100% efficient A phone might not use enough energy for this to make much of a difference, but you need to build and carry beefier battery banks compared to internal batteries, and I’m not sure whether you’ll see a net benifit
There was an even bigger benefit that most people maybe didn’t realise at that time or even now, but when the phone fell that energy got distributed into the parts flying apart, which used to reduce the damage the phone took
That’s part of what makes the Noikia 3310 so infamously hard to damage from dropping it, even at extreme heights. It’s designed to come apart on impact instead of staying in one piece and taking the full brunt of the impact.
Oh god, yeah. My original Galaxy S was dropped a few times and the plastic back cover and the battery flew apart. But the screen never got a scratch, just the plastic had a few small scratches.
But in general the new glass on phone screen sucks ass. My Galaxy S22 has small scratches from normal use, just being in my pocket. The OnePlus 5 I had before that? Not a single scratch.
They are making the glass softer now so it doesn’t crack as easily, but at the same time it starts to scratch more. Instead of going with really hard glass that doesn’t scratch and just telling customers to put a case on :-/
It feels like my S22 ultra’s screen is made of LDPE it’s so soft…
Yeah, took like a month or so till I realized I already had a very visible scratch on the display. Never dropped, just on the table (display up!) or in my jean pockets. Total insanity :-/
When you complain about it everyone just tells you to use a screen protector, but they all suck.
Yeah I wish there was a good screen protector for the ultra but I’ve only heard horror stories about the pen, fingerprint sensor and even camera failing : (
Just buy a Fairphone end enjoy the exact same thing
Fairphone sounds great but currently has a poor price to performance ratio
You pay extra because the materials were sourced through moral means and not sweatshops.
I for one like that feature.
I do too, but it’s a hard sell for the masses right now. I want Fairphone to succeed but it’s tough.
Their subscription program is even less competitive.
I only stick to my Note 9 (peak Samsung) because of stylus support that no one else offers. When Fairphone stars offering as awesome stylus support as Samsung does, I’m moving immediately.
Did they make a Fairphone Fold yet? If not then I’m not leaving my Z Fold 3 anytime soon. I regret not waiting for the Pixel Fold…
I don’t think they will, any time yet anyway.
Looking at how my FP3 and the newer FP4 is assembled, I don’t think they can make a foldable and easily repairable device right now (didn’t stop them releasing those unrepairable Earbuds, but oh well)
There’s also the software aspect too
I did the same with my HTC Thunderbolt. That phone had so many features that these newer “better” phones don’t. Removable battery, expandable storage, IR blaster. That generation was peak for smartphones. Now I just get pixel A’s because they are all the same trash, and at least it’s cheap.
My Galaxy SIII took soo much abuse before it finally died, when I got it, a friend of mine had already installed CyanogenMod onto it. Best rooted phone I ever owned.
It was bulletproof in more ways than one, by the time I finally laid it to rest the charging port was broken and I had to charge it by touching wires to the 2 pins meant for a wireless charger, and the phone wouldn’t charge unless it was turned off.
just like that, no soldering
There’s never any soldering involved when replacing batteries tho?
Oh, could be. Looking it up they mostly use adhesives, custom screws and other crap to stop you from replacing. I could have sworn I heard of a phone where they actually soldered the battery in. Maybe I just made that up though.
The batteries are not soldered even in the newest Samsung phones. Everything you’d want to replace is modular. Not sure about Apple.
Also not soldered on any iPhone but for sure stuck behind several layers of adhesive.
My pixel 4a battery isn’t soldered but I needed to spend 45 minutes taking it apart and it’s definitely not something the average phone user would be comfortable doing. We need to pass (in the US) some sort of legislation that makes it simple to replace phone batteries.
Fat chance. Our only hope is that the EU does it
Didn’t they already do that?
The law needs to be signed still but it is estimated that realisticly easily replaceable batteries in smartphones should hit around 2027…
They did. They are required to be on all phones sold in EU 2027.
Oh it took me about 4 hours recently to replace the battery in my galaxy note 10. Most of that time was painstakingly cleaning up the old adhesives and gaskets with alcohol, tweezers and scrapers.
Or, better yet, you should be able to hot swap the battery, which means that you can change one half of the battery, then the second half and the phone won’t shut down at all. Foldables make it easier since they already use 2 batteries, 1 for each half. Just wire them up in parallel and the voltage won’t drop when one is taken out for replacement by the user.
But customers want water-proof devices! Therefore we cannot make batteries replacable, it’s not what the market wants you know /s
This makes no sense. How does a working phone “miss a few vitals parts” necessary to replace battery?
there’s a channel on YouTube, by louis rossman. you’ll find plenty of examples of bs answers from apple tech support in order to make you spend a great deal of money.
furthermore, nowhere it talks about “vital parts”. So yeah, it makes no sense, but for other reasons.Read your comment twice, now I got what you mean. took me a bit, but you’re definitely right.
The genius bar is pretty infamous for largely being staffed by idiots
Well that’s because there all college kids. Apple is all about the perception not the reality.
Apple but more effort into designing the aesthetic of the store than they do training the staff.
My best guess is he removed the screws from the phone and maybe they couldn’t service the phone because of that? Wild guess, used to work behind the Genius Bar, but that was almost 15yrs ago. But it sounds like a made up excuse tbh.
They claimed my daughter’s phone had a cracked screen and couldn’t replace the battery, while showing a picture of the very clearly not cracked screen.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I imagine this is how Apple would justify it - if there are internal screws or shields missing then it’s a sign that it has been repaired previously by a 3rd party. It might work fine, but it’s not to the original Apple specification.
The Apple store don’t want to take responsibility for those repairs so refuse to do further work in case it leaves them with liability.
“your phone is missing some parts”
I’m sorry what? Did they fall out when I turned it to the side?
I used to do 3rd party repairs, and it’s impossible to describe how fucked up some devices were that came to me from other repair places. Missing screws, shields, screws put back int he wrong places and occasionally they had worked with a bad tech that damaged the mainboard.
“I was expecting $500 inside like in some of those tiktok videos.”
It’s almost like Apple is incredibly anti-consumer, and go out of their way to make buying a new phone more appealing than trying to repair the one you have
You think Apple is bad, let me tell you about a company named John Deere.
It’s not a competition, they can both be shit.
John Deere sure does hate competition
It’s not a counterargument, they can both be inclusive comments.
I went to the John Deere museum in Moline, and they were playing fucking devotional music about their tractors,
For God so loved the world that he gave us his sole-begotten tractor…
🤮🤑
…that we make with proprietary hardware & software that renders your tractor a brick when the electronics break…
Raaaammmmmennnn!!!
Don’t take the name of the noodly Lord in vain
Oh mate, I’m aware of John Deere and their “but we can’t let the farmers repair their own equipment because the environment”
Yes, because independent repair shops are definitely going to sabotage your tractors to make them worse for the environment if you don’t step in and stop them!
It’s totally not about establishing a monopoloy to force farmers to pay exorbitant repair charges, or face paying for a whole new tractor entirely when you refuse to do repairs. Not at all!
/s in case it wasn’t obvious
How are they only just now coming to that conclusion.
A screen replacement for an iPhone is like 80% of the price of the new phone. They’ve been doing this for years now. This isn’t a great revelation.
I mean, they own an iPhone to begin with, slow on the uptake is part of the aesthetic
buys iPhone
complains about unreasonable repair costs
You sleep in the bed you make.
We are forced to participate in the society we live in. It is not the consumer’s fault that a company is shitty.
How are we forced to buy Apple products? Legitimately asking.
Smart phones are almost essential in this day and age, most people get an apple product because it’s what other people have, they shouldn’t be punished for just wanting to have a smartphone was my point. It’s not their fault apple is like this.
It isn’t most people everywhere. Where I live I’d say about 30-40% have iPhones, about another 20% Samsung and Pixel, and the rest are brands like Xiaomi and One Plus. Personally, I love being able to just order a part or battery on Aliexpress and replace it myself or at an independent repair shop, and worst case paying a quarter of what an iphone costs just to replace the whole phone. Which is why I don’t totally understand people needing to buy specifically an iphone.
Well, for one, that is anecdotal evidence, but aside from that, outside of the US Android does reign supreme, but the majority of the US has iPhones. A lot of work apps are made for iPhone, and some apps in general are only for iPhone. Not to mention apple has intentionally made it super easy to enter their ecosystem and just stay there, but super hard to leave.
Maybe someone got their first Mac and iPhone in college and didn’t really know much about apple, and now they’re so integrated in the ecosystem that it would be very difficult to changeover.
Maybe someone really likes having the all iMessage group chat with their family.
There are tons of reasons that have been intentionally created by apple.
Now, as a fellow power user, most of that stuff doesn’t matter to me, and I am able and willing to put in extra time and work to customize things to my liking, but the average user just doesn’t do all that.
My gf has had iPhones so long she literally doesn’t know where to begin to work an Android.
You have to step outside your personal box when thinking about these things. It’s not what I need and/or want, it’s what the average phone user needs/wants/is used to.
So that’s why I say it’s not their fault that because they went with the easy option because they’re worse with tech that they get screwed over by apple. Most people don’t know about all the right to repair issues, hell, most don’t even know how overpriced most of their products are. They shouldn’t HAVE to know these things to not get screwed over.
Sure it’s always good to be an informed buyer. But let’s be honest, most people aren’t, especially not somebody like someone’s grandma who walks into their cell carrier store and says “I need a phone.”
True, but also stop giving Apple money
I’m honestly glad that Apple products aren’t popular in my country.
Thanks for being honest
Same
Happened to my friend. His son dropped his phone one time too many and facial recognition didn’t work from them on.
He took the phone to the service center and was told the true depth sensor was broken and would need to be replaced. Cost was 38000 INR to replace when the entire phone cost around 65000 INR.
He said fuck it and came back. After a couple of weeks, it started working on its own.
Genius scamsters, alright.
Apple was shit during the Steve Jobs iphone years, too. Just ask Louis Rossman (used to do mac repair videos on YT, nowadays mostly talks about current computer stuff)
Oh, and the iphone 4 had a “feature” where holding the phone “wrong” made it lose all signal.
Casey Neistat got his big break in 2003 with “iPod’s Dirty Secret” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTcavAzopg
Just as relevant today as it was 20 years ago.
I want to laugh but a licensed Samsung repair shop couldn’t repair my phone because I lost the stylus and Samsung licensing requires 100% pass of a test that includes the stylus before returning phones to customer.
Borrowed one from the Verizon shop down the street - gave them my driver license as collateral. Worked out but I was less than pleased with Samsung. They can still have my babies tho.
I work at an AASP and I can 100% guarantee you that’s Apple’s fault too cause they literally started that practice. It’s bullshit.
I went to a Samsung certified repair shop to get my screen replaced and they said they couldn’t do it cuz they couldn’t repair my color of phone. Idk what they have against white phones, but I ended up having to mail it to Samsung to get it repaired.
Another Samsung Store couldn’t fix my screen without wiping my data (because procedures) and of course they had to do a full replacement of both the glass and the actual screen.
A Ukrainian guy came to the rescue and replaced just the glass (screen was working just fine), thus at half the price, and most importantly, kept my data intact. As it should’ve been at the official store.
I will never bite the Apple
And it sells like fresh cookies
And people setup camps lining up for new ipoops. Holy fucking hell.
Does that really still happen?
Would’ve been nice if they told us the location, still.
They’re just talking about those repair shops you see everywhere, they will have a sign outside saying something like “repair iPhone/Samsung/Laptop/Computer”
AndOne for the un
This is such a fake and dumb story and largely why 4chan post 2005 is so shallow. These kids don’t have the writing skills to write anything remotely convincing
What part of the story makes you come to that conclusion?
I would have said the same thing if it hadn’t happened to my mom as well.
You’re right but people are mad because they think you’re defending Apple for some reason.
Thanks for being the only one to understand,you’re the goat.
