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    1 year ago

    Back in the day this was even better:

    Original Galaxy S battery was getting weak? Order a new battery from Amazon for 13€. Battery arrives, pop the back of the phone off, pull battery out (just like that, no soldering), push new battery in. Push the back of the phone back on, done.

    New battery in and it had more mAh than the original one. Despite overclocking that phone it ran a day longer after the replacement.

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      1 year ago

      Thanks for reminding me of how I used to never worry about battery life cause the moment one got low, I’d just pop a spare out of my backpack and continue on with my day. Batteries were so freaking cheap!

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        You even had official charging stands that had slots for the extra battery so you could charge everything at once overnight

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        1 year ago

        I have an Anker powerbank for that, if my phone ever gets low I just plug it in in my bag.

        Though it never got this far to be honest, my Galaxy S22 lasts for 2+ days (so charging it in the evening for half an hour is usually enough to never worry about battery).

        Bought the powerbank 6 years ago to play Pokemon Go (go figure), but then they removed the steps feature (showing you how far away you are from the Pokemon, leading to people actually hunting them down instead of sitting around in one spot) and I stopped playing (:

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          Still, plugging in for an hour or more vs just popping a new battery in n having a full charge instantly is not comparable.

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            Plugging in is less trouble. You still have to pop open the cover, switch batteries and pop the cover back on. And Android takes like a full minute to boot back up. Just plugging a cable in and waiting for 20-30 minutes is more chill. Or you load it over night when you sleep.

            The only reason why I’d want a swap-able battery would be cheap battery replacement when the old one is giving out :)

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              And Android takes like a full minute to boot back up.

              Yeah, I miss my brick Nokia’s quick startup time… I think there’s a way to avoid the shutdown problem.

              1. Hibernation mechanism, known from PCs, could be ported to Android. This way you can pick up where you left off before swapping the battery. Seriously, I hate losing all unread notifications after a reboot. Who the hell though that’s a good idea?
              2. Hot swapping battery, which means that you can change one half of the battery, then the second half and the phone won’t shut down at all. Foldables make it easier since they already use 2 batteries, 1 for each half. Just wire them up in parallel and the voltage won’t drop when one is taken out for replacement by the user.
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        1 year ago

        great for you, doesn’t spund great for the environment, I like the push for replaceable batteries, but surely battery banks are a better solution since they are universal

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          Agreed for general use, but for people who just replace the entire phone instead of replacing the battery, it will reduce the waste of all the rest of the phone for some time.

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          Charging the internal battery from an external one loses a lot of energy, battery charging is very far from 100% efficient A phone might not use enough energy for this to make much of a difference, but you need to build and carry beefier battery banks compared to internal batteries, and I’m not sure whether you’ll see a net benifit

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      There was an even bigger benefit that most people maybe didn’t realise at that time or even now, but when the phone fell that energy got distributed into the parts flying apart, which used to reduce the damage the phone took

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        That’s part of what makes the Noikia 3310 so infamously hard to damage from dropping it, even at extreme heights. It’s designed to come apart on impact instead of staying in one piece and taking the full brunt of the impact.

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        Oh god, yeah. My original Galaxy S was dropped a few times and the plastic back cover and the battery flew apart. But the screen never got a scratch, just the plastic had a few small scratches.

        But in general the new glass on phone screen sucks ass. My Galaxy S22 has small scratches from normal use, just being in my pocket. The OnePlus 5 I had before that? Not a single scratch.

        They are making the glass softer now so it doesn’t crack as easily, but at the same time it starts to scratch more. Instead of going with really hard glass that doesn’t scratch and just telling customers to put a case on :-/

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            Yeah, took like a month or so till I realized I already had a very visible scratch on the display. Never dropped, just on the table (display up!) or in my jean pockets. Total insanity :-/

            When you complain about it everyone just tells you to use a screen protector, but they all suck.

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              Yeah I wish there was a good screen protector for the ultra but I’ve only heard horror stories about the pen, fingerprint sensor and even camera failing : (

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          You pay extra because the materials were sourced through moral means and not sweatshops.

          I for one like that feature.

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            1 year ago

            I do too, but it’s a hard sell for the masses right now. I want Fairphone to succeed but it’s tough.

            Their subscription program is even less competitive.

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        1 year ago

        I only stick to my Note 9 (peak Samsung) because of stylus support that no one else offers. When Fairphone stars offering as awesome stylus support as Samsung does, I’m moving immediately.

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        Did they make a Fairphone Fold yet? If not then I’m not leaving my Z Fold 3 anytime soon. I regret not waiting for the Pixel Fold…

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          I don’t think they will, any time yet anyway.

          Looking at how my FP3 and the newer FP4 is assembled, I don’t think they can make a foldable and easily repairable device right now (didn’t stop them releasing those unrepairable Earbuds, but oh well)

          There’s also the software aspect too

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      I did the same with my HTC Thunderbolt. That phone had so many features that these newer “better” phones don’t. Removable battery, expandable storage, IR blaster. That generation was peak for smartphones. Now I just get pixel A’s because they are all the same trash, and at least it’s cheap.

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        My Galaxy SIII took soo much abuse before it finally died, when I got it, a friend of mine had already installed CyanogenMod onto it. Best rooted phone I ever owned.

        It was bulletproof in more ways than one, by the time I finally laid it to rest the charging port was broken and I had to charge it by touching wires to the 2 pins meant for a wireless charger, and the phone wouldn’t charge unless it was turned off.

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      just like that, no soldering

      There’s never any soldering involved when replacing batteries tho?

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        Oh, could be. Looking it up they mostly use adhesives, custom screws and other crap to stop you from replacing. I could have sworn I heard of a phone where they actually soldered the battery in. Maybe I just made that up though.

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      The batteries are not soldered even in the newest Samsung phones. Everything you’d want to replace is modular. Not sure about Apple.

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        My pixel 4a battery isn’t soldered but I needed to spend 45 minutes taking it apart and it’s definitely not something the average phone user would be comfortable doing. We need to pass (in the US) some sort of legislation that makes it simple to replace phone batteries.

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      11 months ago

      But customers want water-proof devices! Therefore we cannot make batteries replacable, it’s not what the market wants you know /s

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      Or, better yet, you should be able to hot swap the battery, which means that you can change one half of the battery, then the second half and the phone won’t shut down at all. Foldables make it easier since they already use 2 batteries, 1 for each half. Just wire them up in parallel and the voltage won’t drop when one is taken out for replacement by the user.