the term AmeriKKKa sweeps RuZZia any day of the week, any month of the year. RuZZia is just so fucking nothing at all.

  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Don’t Russians already use Z themselves as a battlefield identification?

    The reason Americkkka works is because it invokes something they’re (coinflip) ashamed of. Why would a Russian be ashamed of some friend/foe marking on their trucks?

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      That would imply the SS is bad, which is politically inconvenient right now. Keep in mind - There are a good number of people in important places in Ukraine who think the SS Galacian Division were the good guys.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)

      Some time in the last year we spent most of a day hunting down the origins of various heraldry in the region around Kiev because we were trying to figure out if a rampant lion figure was tied to the 14th Waffen SS Grenadiers 1st Galacian. I think in the end we concluded that it was not, as it was just the rampant lions without the three crowns of the 1st Galacian logo, and that lion had a much longer history in the region than the Nazis.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)#The_Canadian_Deschênes_Commission

      Fucking KKKlanada. “We’re going to let the members of the war criminal organization in because we checked and these smol beans didn’t actually do any war crimes” or some bullshit. Canada and the US both have important Ukrainian Nazi organizations that were sheltered and protected throughout the Cold War with exactly the outcome we’re seeing in Ukraine in mind. Which is fucking bizarre because they were never popular during the actual war.

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        … fuck that’s it, isn’t it? They had to workshop something esoteric because the low hanging fruit would upset the Nazis.

        I bet a committee came up with this ZZ shit - how long until we can expect to see it used by a Marvel villain?

      • The commission considered the International Military Tribunal’s verdict at the Nuremberg Trials, at which the entire Waffen-SS organisation was declared a “criminal organization” guilty of war crimes.[57] Also, in its conclusion, the Deschênes Commission only referred to the division as 14. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (Galizische Nr.1) but rejected such a principle

        Referred to as its SS division but not SS somehow kkkanada

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    While I do think it scares a lot of people, I kinda don’t care, and my mind was blown the first time I saw “KKKanada” used for Canada.

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    Still remember that guy who said that Z was “half a swastika” so I suppose it’s just their way of saying Russia is full of Nazis

    Which, you know, just proves how incapable they are

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      I don’t know anyone who has definitive information from the Russian military, but the most plausible explanation I’ve heard is they’re just markers to designate which army group the vehicles are with and reduce the chance of friendly fire. There are I think two other symbols and the thinking is that each pertains to a different miltiary formation, to help keep things organized.

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    Seriously, i could never really get how they use it as some kind of insult. The hell is going on in their heads? Z is literally official symbol for this war you claim to hate so much? Saying that make it sound like the whole country somehow fully and inherently supports it? That’s exactly what le evil authoritarian stalinist dictator pootin would want? Fucking ridiculous.

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      The huge majority of Russians do support the war and that’s a great thing because they’re repelling the NATO encroachment

      Any criticisms about Russia and Russians, just ask, would these have been said the same about Iraq or Afghanistan? Both of these states are also capitalist and have even worse social equality than Russia yet people never get so hand wringy about supporting their anti-imperialism unlike Russia

      Are the criticisms about Russia actually valid from a materialist Leninist standpoint or is it just a Christian influenced upbringing that makes people inherently view the weak as the underdog (Iraq, Afghanistan) as more morally pure and the big, strong, and mighty (Russia) as evil

      It’s good that Russia is actually powerful enough to win against NATO and that fact should be celebrated, not shamed

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      My own take is that there are ruzzians (pro-SMO, happy for russia to invade and occupy a sovereign country, attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure, and happy to excuse war-crimes when convenient for them) and normal russians, a mostly apolitical & apathetic bunch of people who try to keep their head down, some of which vote with their feet, and a few stand-up folks who will call a spade a spade publicly. No real surprises & pretty typical population make-up, in other words.

      Personally, I don’t think russia deserves to wear a “great power” party hat. It’s the wrong horse to bet on for a chance of a better world.