Thank you, federation, for bringing libs to our lair once again.

They really always default to the same fucking shit “BOT! XINNIE THE POOH!” like an actual NPC che-laugh

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      Their core beliefs are only supported by vagueries and insinuations, of course their racism is underhanded as well.

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        doing the reddit shit

        can confirm this happens every. damn. thread.

        yeah this honestly. this comment hit me right in the feels. shut up and take my upvote!

        this is gonna get buried and I’m probably gonna get downvoted for this but fuck Russia and fuck Putler.

        edit: wow, this thread really blew up! RIP my inbox!

        edit2: thanks for the gold kind stranger!

        edit3: I’m seeing word that there’s some tankies hanging around on this thread, and I’m only going to say this once - get the fuck out. Maybe you went, I don’t know, to a LIBRARY for once in your lives and read a book on the Soviet Union that you so fervently worship, let alone the authoritarian Chinese government, you wouldn’t be such fucking douchecanoes.

        edit4: holy shit somebody gave me platinum! you are epic, good sir!

        edit5: who would have thought my most upvoted comment would have been on this thread!

        edit6: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) swiggity swooty

        edit7: alright, I’m noping the fuck out of here! see you later everybody!

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        Marvel eventually had to stop using Fu Manchu because of copyright, so they eventually just came up with The Yellow Claw

        Shang Chi’s original father before they started to use The Mandarin instead

        (Which is it’s own bucket of worms, but yeah, lots of Yellow Peril in comic books)

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    Liberals can’t help but repeat 200 year old debunked talking points like a broken record player, as if it will make sense this time

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      As is well known, Lassalle heard nothing of the “iron law of wages” other than the word “iron” borrowed from Goethe’s “eternal, iron, great laws”. The word brazen is a signature by which the true believers recognize themselves. But if I take the law with Lassalle’s stamp and therefore in his sense, then I must also take it with his justification. And what is she? As Lange showed shortly after Lassalle’s death: the Malthusian theory of population (preached by Lange himself). But if this is correct, then again I cannot abolish the law, even if I abolish wage labor a hundred times, because the law then governs not only the system of wage labor but every social system. Precisely based on this, the economists have been proving for fifty years and more that socialism cannot abolish natural misery, but only generalize it and spread it over the entire surface of society at the same time!

      • K. Marx, 1875 (Critique of the Gotha Program - Google translated from German/mlwerke.de, I CBA to look up the quote in English)

      They’re using the same arguments as 150 years ago, yes.

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        It’s incredible how Marx was already dunking on the same arguments we see TODAY, everywhere.

        Somewhere in Grundrisse, he criticizes an American economist that argues that the state is wheighing down the american economy and that it should be abolished for the market to be free. The quotes felt like someone slipped reddit comments into the pages.

        (Btw, Marx explains that the American state is itself the result of the self organization of free market forces, unlike in European countries, in which captalists had to deal with the feudal institutions that preceded them, so the american’s argument made zero sense then and still makes zero sense now)

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        I don’t even want to get near that hornet’s nest, not this time. WoT’s fandom gives the ASOFAI fandom a run for its money for toxic tribalistic bullshit.

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            They’re all old. Just push them over and run away.

            I’d have to check my chromosomes to see if I have the gender essentialist magic that allows me to push them over morshupls

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              it’s distilled through the lens of modern anglo bullshit so it’s not great on gender but a lot of wheel of time draws from norse mythology, including the gender-bendy parts. calling it gender essentialist is a pretty shallow read

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                but a lot of wheel of time draws from norse mythology

                calling it gender essentialist is a pretty shallow read

                Pretty much all fiction draws from something else. That doesn’t automatically give anything a pass, and calling it a “shallow read” implies that if I read it deeply I would automatically approve of its ideology. The Peterson Maneuver is kind of in bad taste. up-yours-woke-moralists

                EDIT: Also, saying “actually the gender magic isn’t essentialist because genders can shift like in Norse mythology” still doesn’t remove the fact that magic is gender coded in a contrived way from the start in the metaphysics of the fiction. A similar excuse could be made of Gygax’s establishment of racism with essentialist characterstics in D&D where creatures could shift to different races by magical means (such as the druid reincarnation spell, but not exclusive to that) but orcs are nonetheless “born evil” and it’s a “good act” to kill them no matter the circumstances.

                You’re allowed to like it, but accusing people of being “shallow” in their reading if they don’t agree with you is a lot like accusing people of “taking jordan-eboy-peterson out of context” if they don’t nod along to everything Professor Lobster says.

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                  Compare Discworld, which has strongly gendered magic but is made very clear that it’s a cultural construct and anyone can learn either mode (or both, though generally not at once) if they have the right mindset and inclination.

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                  there’s an explicitly trans male character that channels the appropriate magic. he’s considered the weird woman who channels male magic until it’s dropped that satan literally cursed him to live as a woman. it’s a very binary gender system but if you’re going to have eternal souls, it’s not an awful way to handle trans characters. there’s a lot wrong with the gender politics and Jordan sucks ass at writing women so there’s much riper targets to criticize the series over than this.

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                  Love to have a cis man come at me about what is and isn’t gender essentialism because he perceives me as being a treat defender and therefore the target of his life’s vendetta.

                  Calling it a shallow read doesn’t imply anything of the sort. As others pointed out in more detail than me, there are better places to critique the books and how they handle gender. Which is the point of what I wrote.

                  I fucking knew when I wrote that reply I’d get an arrogant, condescending reply like this. I don’t like the vibe you’ve brought to hexbear since you’ve been here, and I will not reply further.

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            Sounds like Star Citizen’s big spenders. There was some le steak dinner party set up by the grifting company (so the big spenders would get exclusive access to yet another fucking internet spaceship jpeg sale), and the photos that the attendees send back to try to flex showed a room full of dumpy old white men. No one I could see was younger than, maybe, 45, and they were so, so white. One even had a fucking top hat because le irony. cringe

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              Hasn’t that game been in development since 2010? So the dumpy 45-year old was at one point a slightly less dumpy 30-something who presumably had some disposable income to throw at a cool kickstarter game.