Maybe this should be elementary: no, there are no right-wing vegans. But at least Lifting Vegan Logic has said that he is neither left, or right. Usually I would say it means he is right-wing, so I am wrong?

      • 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyzEnglish
        10·
        1 year ago

        I know a republican vegan. Started as a health thing but adopted more traditional reasons the further into it they got.

        The real question should be is why aren’t more leftists automatically vegan?

          • TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.eeEnglish
            5·
            1 year ago

            Except that animals take up a lot of space for themselves and their food. And additionally animals give co2 and other harmful games into the air. So big difference between farming plants and farming animals.

              • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                4·
                1 year ago

                But that’s not really how it works in practice, is it? We don’t limit meat production to what can be produced as a byproduct of ecological management, or scavaged after an animal’s natural death. The material conditions that actually exists are that there is a massive industry that’s exploitative of humans and animals alike, and it’s causing tons of needless cruelty and wanton ecological damage in order to provide people with meat.

                Even if you limited yourself to only eating meat produced in the ways that you described (plenty of people will deploy this argument and then make no attempt to actually live up to the standards they put forth, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt), would it not be better to sell the meat produced this way, so that some other carnist will eat that rather than meat produced from a factory farm?

                This is an idealist argument. Just because you can engineer some hypothetical situation where eating meat doesn’t cause harm doesn’t mean that that hypothetical is relevant to the vast majority of cases that actually exist.

              • TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.eeEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                Those things are in theory true, but they are only possible for a very small amount of people. The amount of food we need can’t be produced with rotating fields. The amount of meat we eat (not need) can’t be got from just killing overpopulation. To get that much meat you have to spificly farm millions of animals, just so you can have a piece of meat.