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    the government just confirmed aliens are real another hack job with government connections is claiming that he was told by government official that alien “biologics” and space craft were recovered by the government without being able to provide evidence or details because it is “classified”

    What a nothingburger

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      he didn’t even say alien. “alien biologics” while meaningless, was a stronger assertion than he was willing to make. he said “non-human biologics”, which could mean anything from aliens to there was some grass there. he just left it vague and then people like OP who want the truth but also know exactly what they want the truth to be filled in the details using the twin powers of guessing and lying.

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      Except his documents were all routed through the Intel Community Inspector General who sent them to congress calling them “urgent and credible.”

      And his lawyers are former Inspector Generals.

      You say this just because he didnt post things to wikileaks and defect to russia.

      The mans trying to make sure he doesnt go to prison.

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        Do you have some sources? Every time I’ve tried to look into it, I get garbage articles and no real information.

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          Because the informations are hearsays from one man that may or may not be credible.

          Basically it’s a premium “trust me bro”

          For some it’s enough, for the majority it’s just another disappointing nothingburger

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            Yeah, pics or it didn’t happen… oh wait, we can literally generate the pics now… shit. Guess we’re out here in the wild west these days…

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            You didnt read my comment.

            If the man “posted pics” he’d be risking his freedom and family’s future.

            He was found credible by not only his lawyers but the inspector general so much so that his complaint was levelied to congress.

            https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-a-with-debrief-co-founder-and-investigator-tim-mcmillan-part-1/

            This is the site that ran the original article prior to in televised interview.

            This is part 1 of the fact checking / vetting they did on the whistleblower.

            Edit: grammar.

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            So that says nothing about the information itself but rather just goes on about credentials and employment, with a tidbit about not leaking classified information. It does not provide any justification as to why this person’s claims should be believed rather than just “he worked there”.

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              It does, the IG that reviewed his case found it to be “urgent and credible” enough to be forwarded to congress.

              Again, the man can’t & shouldnt, go full snowden where he just dumps his load and defects to Russia, forsaking his or his family’s future.

              So that leaves us in the position of, hey, this guy has a record of credibility and others whove reviewed what he has say its credible and urgent.

              It is up to congress to investigate and then declassify.

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                The information doesn’t have to be evidence of aliens existing to be “urgent and credible”, the statement says “The ICIG found Mr. Grusch’s assertion that information was inappropriately concealed from Congress to be urgent and credible in response to the filed disclosure.” which could mean it can just be about the organizational structure of the agencies, for example.

                And I wasn’t going to mention it but this is the second time you bring up Snowden, who neither “[dumped] his load” nor “defected to Russia”. He released information to journalists that the US government was illegally spying on its own citizens as well as its allies in a much broader way than anyone outside imagined. He was then stuck at an airport in Russia because the US government revoked his passport during a flight that landed there. He has repeatedly asked for a fair, public trial instead of being put in a dark box at Guantanamo and received no agreement of that from the US government so he’s stayed in one of the only places where he won’t be extradited to a country that intends to make him disappear. Since then, he’s criticized authoritarianism and governmental overreach while living in one of the most brutal dictatorships on earth, which takes more balls than either of us have.

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            Thanks for the link. I was more interested in the original article here that focused on what exactly was revealed.

            I’m skeptical with the fact that non-human made artifacts and entire crafts were recovered, especially since no one except extremely secret organizations currently have these materials.

            The fact that a well respected member of the intelligence community backed by other well respected members has come out with these statements does raise eyebrows.

            With all that said, the debrief does seem like a credible source of information, and I’m curious to see what this evolves into if other active members of the intelligence community continue to whistleblow on alleged illegal activity.

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            Thanks for the link. I was more interested in the original article here that focused on what exactly was revealed.

            I’m skeptical with the fact that non-human made artifacts and entire crafts were recovered, especially since no one except extremely secret organizations currently have these materials.

            The fact that a well respected member of the intelligence community backed by other well respected members has made come out with these statements does raise eyebrows.

            With all that said, the debrief does seem like a credible source of information, and I’m curious to see what this evolves into if other active members of the intelligence community continue to whistleblow on alleged illegal activity.