• johncandy1812@lemmy.ca
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    People complain about the BBC but I would still take them over any US billionaire owned propaganda.

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      In general I don’t notice a large difference between US billionaire rags and the BBC.

      Headlines like there are once in a blue moon. Rags like NYT will also occasionally do actual journalism such as with the flour massacre.

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      Why is that the only alternative when we have phenomenal independent journalism at Democracy Now, Drop Site News, ect

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      They’re certainly better in certain regards but still imperfect. As the post says, it’s rare that the BBC, which strives for a misguided notion of “total” neutrality, to make such a specific headline in regards to the conflict. In the past, it would’ve been something like 'Boy killed in West Back/Gaza Strip." I remember saying this on another post sometime ago but the BBC tries to be neutral in such a way that their reporting lacks any substance and ends up, de facto, supporting the status quo in the end. It goes something like this: Thing Happened > Here’s what known about thing that happened > People are calling thing that happened a tragedy > On to next thing.

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        BBC does not use “neutral” language. In general they only use that for Israel. When Russia or Hamas does something BBC digs up all the adjectives. This post is a rare exception.

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          Strangely enough, they’re not very popular with the pro-Zionist criminals crowd. When news broke out that Hamas’s then leader, Yahya Sinwar, was killed, I saw tons of comments under the comment sections of the BBC’s (and other mainstream outlets) Youtube videos saying something along lines of “I’m sorry to hear about your loss, BBC.” Thinking about now, it was mostly likely a Zionist bot network.

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            Those are bots. Zionist tactic #1 is call everything slightly critical of Israel “Hamas”. This way the enlightened centrists will say that both sides are not happy and therefore BBC is “neutral”.

            A great example of BBC censorship is the BBC censoring "free Palestine’ from a speech at the Bafta’s recently. While leaving in someone saying the n-word.

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            If all the comments say the same thing or similar things, it’s likely crowdsourced through Riseapp/Act.il

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      The guys who did the yearly news review for the German hacker congress had a whole category for articles/headlines like this called “da war wohl der Zensor pinkeln”, roughly translated “the censor must have been taking a leak” (leak as in urinating, not whistleblowing, that pun doesn’t work in German sadly).

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      don’t worry, he won’t be in there for very long. lol

  • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    “Stood around” is still neutral wording versus what they actually did, which was watch a human being bleed to death slowly and painfully.

  • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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    People on Lemmy complain the BBC is too right wing, the right wingers I know complain it’s too left wing. Maybe it actually is doing something right at being ‘central’.

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      it’s defining the boundaries between right and left for you to make sure that you only look at it from that perspective.

      if you use a class perspective, you would see that they’re doing whatever makes them profit and part of that is making sure that they have your attention.

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          Publicly funded arm of a government in tow to the capitalist class = our tax pays for their propaganda

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            What’s this a reference to? Is the BBC allowed to take outside funding?

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              not entirely means that over a third of its revenues comes from private/commercial sources.

              not for long means that their public funding is going to end in 2027 and that’s when a majority of their revenue will switch to private/commercial sources and they will become like any other form of legacy media.

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      Its very much not. Think about it in terms of class, not political ideology. The BBC, and every other mass media platform, is for the elite. Sometimes the elite like policies the left likes because it makes them money. Sometimes the elite like policies the right like because it makes them money. It will NEVER be for the other 95% of the populace

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      The enlightened centrist position of manufacturing consent for the genocide of trans people and other fascist policy