the FOSS scene in india is quite big. i think it usually doesn’t make much sense to differentiate experiences on country: you wouldn’t do that when the country would be netherland or germany, i guesss. Only in india, it matters.
Because we know that India is considered quite patriarchal. And if you followed the news in more recent years they have quite a reputation. So when the medium post lined by OP (you) is mostly about men from patriarchal societies misbehaving, it is quite disingenuous (is that a word, I am not sure) to say it is the fault of FOSS. The Netherlands, Germany etc. do not have the reputation India does, nor have I heard their FOSS communities are hostile to women. So once more, it is silly to blame FOSS (communities) globally for something of which:
the severity (or even existance) greatly varies across the world.
where it exists, is probably influenced heavily by other factors than (wo)men in a computer club
different exmaple: when some male person from india publishes for instance an article about tech things in FOSS (for instance a new feature they have been working on) it wouldn’t make much sense to highlight the country, it would be only natural to think this person as part of the FOSS scene. why is this case different?
well i agree that india has a reputation being quite patriarchical, but reputation is misleading: also germany has patriarchical structures but has no wide pubilc reputation for that. it is surely different in intensity, but still in germany 1/3 of women experience sexual violence in their live. as structural problems are always different in every country, it doesn’t make much sense to highlight those of india.
i mean, i probably wouldn’t complain if you used a different wording and showed solidirarity with the author, while linking to for instance an queerfeminst blog entry describing how the patriarchical strucutres in india makes the live of queerfeminist (and also men who do are not considered to be manly) worse.
i wouldn’t say much when you would show interest in fixing those issues, for instance also by explaining that you are part of awareness teams of conferences where people can show up when they experience any sort of harassment. i wouldn’t say much when i could trust you having a deep understanding of awareness related work.
what i don’t understand: FOSS has big conferences where people around the world join together. it could happen that a women from US visists a debconf or something in india, and also a women from anywhere visists a conference where male, patriarchic people from india attend. For both people this post would be very interesting and it leaves a bad impression that you downvoted (probably).
THIS 100% AS A QUEER WOMAN I WOULD BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AND EVEN VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED FOR PARTICIPATING IN FOSS THE SAME WAY A MAN WOULD! THANK YOU!
Because we know that India is considered quite patriarchal. And if you followed the news in more recent years they have quite a reputation. So when the medium post lined by OP (you) is mostly about men from patriarchal societies misbehaving, it is quite disingenuous (is that a word, I am not sure) to say it is the fault of FOSS. The Netherlands, Germany etc. do not have the reputation India does, nor have I heard their FOSS communities are hostile to women. So once more, it is silly to blame FOSS (communities) globally for something of which:
You are shifting the goal post mate.
well i agree that india has a reputation being quite patriarchical, but reputation is misleading: also germany has patriarchical structures but has no wide pubilc reputation for that. it is surely different in intensity, but still in germany 1/3 of women experience sexual violence in their live. as structural problems are always different in every country, it doesn’t make much sense to highlight those of india.
i mean, i probably wouldn’t complain if you used a different wording and showed solidirarity with the author, while linking to for instance an queerfeminst blog entry describing how the patriarchical strucutres in india makes the live of queerfeminist (and also men who do are not considered to be manly) worse.
i wouldn’t say much when you would show interest in fixing those issues, for instance also by explaining that you are part of awareness teams of conferences where people can show up when they experience any sort of harassment. i wouldn’t say much when i could trust you having a deep understanding of awareness related work.
what i don’t understand: FOSS has big conferences where people around the world join together. it could happen that a women from US visists a debconf or something in india, and also a women from anywhere visists a conference where male, patriarchic people from india attend. For both people this post would be very interesting and it leaves a bad impression that you downvoted (probably).
THIS 100% AS A QUEER WOMAN I WOULD BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AND EVEN VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED FOR PARTICIPATING IN FOSS THE SAME WAY A MAN WOULD! THANK YOU!