• redtea
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    What would it even mean to co-operate with NATO on

    climate change, human rights, integrity building and cyber defence[?]

    NATO is only concerned with one of these things. Co-operation in this respect can only mean exacerbating climate change, ignoring human rights, and I don’t even know what it might mean for one of the most violent military alliances in history to build integrity.

    Edit: missing question mark added.

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        I stand corrected. I still don’t think they plan to do anything about climate change. Not unless they’re forced by public pressure. The plan is more to protect the capitalist class from the destruction of climate change.

        Edit: the linked report is informative but it’s very idealist. It says that NATO has been aware of climate risks since 1969 and had done this or that through the years to take environmental degradation, such as cleaning up after wars. This may all be true. But if we used a weighing scales and measured these positive actions against the environmental degradation it has caused, the scales would tip over.

        Not to mention that one of the functions of NATO is to maintain the conditions of the existing balance of international trade, which allows the global north to contribute disproportionately more to global emissions than the global south. So NATO-as-a-military-alliance cannot be analysed in isolation from the political economy that NATO exists to protect.

        Edit 2: see:

        1. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802200005X

        we use environmental input-output data and footprint analysis to quantify the physical scale of net appropriation from the South in terms of embodied resources and labour over the period 1990 to 2015.

        1. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542519620301960

        Background

        This analysis proposes a novel method for quantifying national responsibility for damages related to climate change by looking at national contributions to cumulative CO2 emissions in excess of the planetary boundary of 350 ppm atmospheric CO2 concentration. This approach is rooted in the principle of equal per capita access to atmospheric commons.

        Methods

        For this analysis, national fair shares of a safe global carbon budget consistent with the planetary boundary of 350 ppm were derived. These fair shares were then subtracted from countries’ actual historical emissions (territorial emissions from 1850 to 1969, and consumption-based emissions from 1970 to 2015) to determine the extent to which each country has overshot or undershot its fair share. Through this approach, each country’s share of responsibility for global emissions in excess of the planetary boundary was calculated.

        Findings

        As of 2015, the USA was responsible for 40% of excess global CO2 emissions. The European Union (EU-28) was responsible for 29%. The G8 nations (the USA, EU-28, Russia, Japan, and Canada) were together responsible for 85%. Countries classified by the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change as Annex I nations (ie, most industrialised countries) were responsible for 90% of excess emissions. The Global North was responsible for 92%. By contrast, most countries in the Global South were within their boundary fair shares, including India and China (although China will overshoot soon).

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        They can work on climate change without NATO but with civilian organizations, if you involve NATO - it is military.