Complex question. The stage of socialism that China is at? Or when it will fall to a revolution?
I think it’s kind of pointless to try to estimate further than the next qualitative change towards socialism (so, revolution), so I’m just going to put my answer for the revolution ETA.
And that is I have really no idea. None of us do, but if you are on the ground involved with an organization and engaging in the work as we all should be, you’ll see that things are far worse (conditions wise) than even a year ago. People are struggling and unhappy. Revolutionary tinge is growing.
This election year is going to be hell at the end, and I wouldn’t be surprised if things got significantly worse before the next inauguration. We just saw the insane SCOTUS ruling(s). Maybe something big happens in 2025 and succeeds, maybe it happens and is quashed and pushes back revolution for another few years.
The only thing that is very clear is that this cannot go on for much longer. I truthfully cannot see this country surviving status quo for another 10 years. It either will devolve into total, mask-off fascism (more than it is already, talking Nazi shit) or we will get done what needs to get done. But this will end soon.
I mean this respectfully, but here’s a thought exercise: What’s the actual criteria needed to upgrade Amerikkka from “mask-off fascism” to “[actual] nazi shit”…
Openly committing a genocide? Invading Russia? Arming and paying Ukrainians to terrorize Russians and communists? Brownshirts roam streets in larger cities? Hatred of Marxism? Oppression of non-state-sanctioned journalism? Brutal state oppression of opposition or protest? Perpetual state of war? Subjugating Europe? Leibensraum facilitated by ethnic cleansing? Industrial propaganda machine? Violent ultra-nationalism and military worship? Country held hostage by popular genocidal old man prosecuting a world war?
Now start a timer as you look for the line that hasn’t been crossed yet.
Nah you’re right. They’re already there and have been for a long time. I guess there’s no quantifiable measurement after they’ve hit fascism, y’know? So I just used that instead of saying “oogabooga BIGGER fascism” cause I mean. How much worse can it get? A lot, but also, not really that much considering what things could be. Idk
Deathsquads, genocide, death camps, ethnic cleansing, slavery - inside of the US, without any apearances. Much of that is currently either externalized to other countries or hidden via the MSM.
Remember fascism is the techniques of colonialism being applied on the homeland.
Complex question. The stage of socialism that China is at? Or when it will fall to a revolution?
I think it’s kind of pointless to try to estimate further than the next qualitative change towards socialism (so, revolution), so I’m just going to put my answer for the revolution ETA.
And that is I have really no idea. None of us do, but if you are on the ground involved with an organization and engaging in the work as we all should be, you’ll see that things are far worse (conditions wise) than even a year ago. People are struggling and unhappy. Revolutionary tinge is growing.
This election year is going to be hell at the end, and I wouldn’t be surprised if things got significantly worse before the next inauguration. We just saw the insane SCOTUS ruling(s). Maybe something big happens in 2025 and succeeds, maybe it happens and is quashed and pushes back revolution for another few years.
The only thing that is very clear is that this cannot go on for much longer. I truthfully cannot see this country surviving status quo for another 10 years. It either will devolve into total, mask-off fascism (more than it is already, talking Nazi shit) or we will get done what needs to get done. But this will end soon.
I mean this respectfully, but here’s a thought exercise: What’s the actual criteria needed to upgrade Amerikkka from “mask-off fascism” to “[actual] nazi shit”…
Openly committing a genocide? Invading Russia? Arming and paying Ukrainians to terrorize Russians and communists? Brownshirts roam streets in larger cities? Hatred of Marxism? Oppression of non-state-sanctioned journalism? Brutal state oppression of opposition or protest? Perpetual state of war? Subjugating Europe? Leibensraum facilitated by ethnic cleansing? Industrial propaganda machine? Violent ultra-nationalism and military worship? Country held hostage by popular genocidal old man prosecuting a world war?
Now start a timer as you look for the line that hasn’t been crossed yet.
Nah you’re right. They’re already there and have been for a long time. I guess there’s no quantifiable measurement after they’ve hit fascism, y’know? So I just used that instead of saying “oogabooga BIGGER fascism” cause I mean. How much worse can it get? A lot, but also, not really that much considering what things could be. Idk
Deathsquads, genocide, death camps, ethnic cleansing, slavery - inside of the US, without any apearances. Much of that is currently either externalized to other countries or hidden via the MSM.
Remember fascism is the techniques of colonialism being applied on the homeland.
So by your definition and opinion, the US isn’t even fascist.
Not yet, but getting there. Just a bit more decline of capitalism.
I’d call that a complete lack of self awareness typical of most amerikkkans.
Personally I doubt it will last until 2076.