Except it doesn’t make any sense for Russia to blow up infrastructure they control. The fact that you can’t think of any reason for Ukraine to have done it is an argument from personal incredulity.
It also “made sense” to most Americans that Iraq had WMDs. Colin Powell even said so, and he was greatly respected despite his participation in covering up the My Lai Massacre.
Accusations of whataboutism are a thought-terminating cliché that, ironically, usually just help the accuser avoid engaging with a critical argument.
The relevance here is that using “it sounds right to me” to decide whether a media narrative is true will lead a person to make big mistakes. And I am criticizing the general lack of media criticism in this thread.
I guess that depends on conditions. It can be just deflection and it can be pointing out of important context.
For example current situation: USA (and UA since the maidan attack false flag) have long history of trying to manufacture consent for coups, wars etc, with the newest uncovered example being the Nordstream attacks. So to point that out is pretty important with yet another case of suspicious attack (also not even the first such case in that war) which is immediately being pushed without any confirmation whatsoever on basis sometimes going as far as just “Russia evil”.
But the facedeer when pointed out that it’s relevant just said “whataboutism” as if that was completely separate event in another galaxy. This is the real “whataboutism” as fallacy.
And also based on it making total sense for Russia to have done it, and no sense at all for anyone else to have done it.
Except it doesn’t make any sense for Russia to blow up infrastructure they control. The fact that you can’t think of any reason for Ukraine to have done it is an argument from personal incredulity.
It also “made sense” to most Americans that Iraq had WMDs. Colin Powell even said so, and he was greatly respected despite his participation in covering up the My Lai Massacre.
A bunch of whataboutism that has no relevance to the subject at hand.
Accusations of whataboutism are a thought-terminating cliché that, ironically, usually just help the accuser avoid engaging with a critical argument.
The relevance here is that using “it sounds right to me” to decide whether a media narrative is true will lead a person to make big mistakes. And I am criticizing the general lack of media criticism in this thread.
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Am I crazy or do most people call whataboutism “pointing out hypocrisy” and consider it a normal human reaction to… being confronted with hypocrisy
I guess that depends on conditions. It can be just deflection and it can be pointing out of important context.
For example current situation: USA (and UA since the maidan attack false flag) have long history of trying to manufacture consent for coups, wars etc, with the newest uncovered example being the Nordstream attacks. So to point that out is pretty important with yet another case of suspicious attack (also not even the first such case in that war) which is immediately being pushed without any confirmation whatsoever on basis sometimes going as far as just “Russia evil”.
But the facedeer when pointed out that it’s relevant just said “whataboutism” as if that was completely separate event in another galaxy. This is the real “whataboutism” as fallacy.
Whataboutism is a logical fallacy, and not a sound argument.