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  • Remy Rose
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    232 months ago

    Zeno’s Paradox, even though it’s pretty much resolved. If you fire an arrow at an apple, before it can get all the way there, it must get halfway there. But before it can get halfway there, it’s gotta get a quarter of the way there. But before it can get a fourth of the way, it’s gotta get an eighth… etc, etc. The arrow never runs out of new subdivisions it must cross. Therefore motion is actually impossible QED lol.

    Obviously motion is possible, but it’s neat to see what ways people intuitively try to counter this, because it’s not super obvious. The tortoise race one is better but seemed more tedious to try and get across.

      • @Jayjader@jlai.lu
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        32 months ago

        If I remember my series analysis math classes correctly: technically, summing a decreasing trend up to infinity will give you a finite value if and only if the trend decreases faster than the function/curve x -> 1/x.

        • @mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de
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          21 month ago

          Great. Can you give me example of decreasing trend slower than that function curve?, where summation doesn’t give finite value? A simple example please, I am not math scholar.

          • @Jayjader@jlai.lu
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            1 month ago

            So, for starters, any exponentiation “greater than 1” is a valid candidate, in the sense that 1/(n^2), 1/(n^3), etc will all give a finite sum over infinite values of n.

            From that, inverting the exponentiation “rule” gives us the “simple” examples you are looking for: 1/√n, 1/√(√n), etc.

            Knowing that n = n^(1/2), and so that 1/√n can be written as 1/(n^(1/2)), might help make these examples more obvious.

              • @Jayjader@jlai.lu
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                11 month ago

                From 1/√3 to 1/√4 is less of a decrease than from 1/3 to 1/4, just as from 1/3 to 1/4 is less of a decrease than from 1/(3²) to 1/(4²).

                The curve here is not mapping 1/4 -> 1/√4, but rather 4 -> 1/√4 (and 3 -> 1/√3, and so on).

    • @toastus@feddit.de
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      32 months ago

      I had success talking about the tortoise one with imaginary time stamps.

      I think it gets more understandable that this pseudo paradox just uses smaller and smaller steps for no real reason.
      If you just go one second at a time you can clearly see exactly when the tortoise gets overtaken.

    • this_is_router
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      12 months ago

      Zeno’s Paradox, even though it’s pretty much resolved

      Lol. It pretty much just decreases the time span you look at so that you never get to the point in time the arrow reaches the apple. Nothing there to be “solved” IMHO