I was gonna ask “Are Mestizos settlers?” but I quickly realized that the answer to this question probably isn’t black and white. If the answer to this isn’t just “Yes” or “No” then what determines whether or not a Mestizo person is a settler?
I was gonna ask “Are Mestizos settlers?” but I quickly realized that the answer to this question probably isn’t black and white. If the answer to this isn’t just “Yes” or “No” then what determines whether or not a Mestizo person is a settler?
Give me an example of land that hasn’t been ‘stolen’ a single time in human history. Better yet, divide the world into settlers and non-settlers. Haiti? Jamaica? It’s a made up distinction. Yes, imperialist empires have and will commit terrible atrocities, but the only thing that matters for us is the dictatorship of the proletariat and how it will steer our lands towards common worker prosperity. No amount of cultural, racial or historical connection to the soil could change that. Instead, we need to focus on the one characteristic we all share; class position.
So basically it’s too complicated for you to understand how to fix so you ally yourself with genocidal states to ease your mind and keep revolution the simple process you want it to be. Speak for yourself. Proletarians have never been the only class that struggles against capital. The proletariat risks failure by misrecognizing the conditions of the world. More disturbingly, it risks advancing capital’s empire by disregarding Indigenous peoples and peasants as it has absolutely done throughout its history in the US.
Your fixation on class is false because it is a vulgar understanding of class that was watered down by western, bourgeois, settler academics that have no engagement with the actual conditions of the world and instead favor the simulations of the liberal state.
Class is determined by your relation to the capitalist mode of reproduction. Hence only two classes. The exploiters, and the exploted. I’d still like you to tell me a piece of land on earth that hasn’t been stolen, and your plan on how to feasibly migrate billions of people into their own little ethnostates without killing loads of people like when the greek and turkish populations swapped in 1923. Maybe class struggle is just easier?
Projection
Why is Rye assuming that decolonization automatically means deporting the settlers? You know Vaush literally made that same error too, right?
Well my guess is that it is actually quite intuitive from a settler point of view. If we cant have a settler state in this place, then we will obviously have to disposses someone else to fix it. There is no imaginable way forward when you refuse to accept land theft is a defining feature of America so one might through their hands up in disgust, or justify it. It is not entirely different from the logic that goes into the occupation of Palestine. To question it is practically an atrocity with colonial logic. To be sure there is a marxist flavor to this that we must be on guard for.
Of course it is not Indigenous people saying all this rather but reactionaries that oppose decolonization. Likewise, it is typically white settlers, and other colonial accomplices, saying it would be genocide to return land and dismantle settler institutions. There is always a move to center white settler subjectivity and claim innocence. This should always be a red flag. It is bigger than individual failings, it is also a community problem as well. We have to hold each other accountable.
With time people can hopefully learn more. Just as we how when we learn more about how capitalism functions we are better able to combat it. Same for the idiosyncrasies of colonialism and the sensibilities it fosters. It is unfortunately common for people to lash out like this when faced with this. I think we should show patience for our comrades while we still do our best to explain. We simultaneously can’t let ignorant, potentially dangerous, comrades compromise those that we should be championing. We risk putting people in danger and discrediting ourselves.