Listen, this user is a terminally online anarchist who complains about tankies and calls Stalin genocidal. But shes correct about this one. Mostly. I mean using the term “bedtime abolition” sounds dumb but Im pretty sure she only did that because its a common joke about anarchists. The core point is about how 9-5 work schedules dont work for everyone. As an ND person who struggles with culturally normal sleep schedules, I absolutely agree that society needs to accomodate these things. I absolutely agree that its literally normal talk everyone says that work schedules suck.
People saying “just go to bed on time” or “just pop a melatonin” have never been in the position of trying to do that and failing, just laying awake for hours until you finally fall asleep two hours before you need to be up.
https://nitter.net/moonlit_misfit/status/1743350718944121067
i just gotta say, in what world is 4am to noon, natural? in winter months that’s a recipe for disaster.
every time someone says “it’s just how my body works” it just means “it’s what I’m comfortable doing currently”
You know what? You’re right. My autism and sleep disorder don’t exist. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
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Thats not true at all. ND people’s bodies function differently in regards to sleep for example. And im sure youve heard of sleep disorders.
Also the idea that we should have to adjust what our body is currently inclinded to do is capitalist realism anyway.
in hunter gatherer societies, it is necessary for some people to stay awake at night, to look out for predators (of both humans and their livestock/gardens), regimented farming and the unified schedules that are ideal for it are relatively recent inventions in human history, and haven’t been around long enough to significantly alter our instincts.
I think this take is a little bit capitalist realism of you comrade.
Capitalist realism? huh? I’m talking about hours of sunlight here. not getting enough sunlight is not “natural” (I realize that term is very loaded, I’m going by their use of it). also I should note that during socialist construction in the USSR, the working day was very regimented, it takes a lot of work to build.
Yeah natural isnt a good word for it. But at the end of the day sleep disorders and ND people exist and have sleep schedules that arent fixed to what capitalist society deems a “natural sleep cycle”.
The fact that lots of unemployed people trend towards staying up late and getting up late doesnt seem immaterial to me.
I say “capitalist realism” because it seems like youve internalized the idea of a capitalist work schedule being normal and healthy.
I think we are under different material conditions now that would allow for things like flexitime, 4 day work week and shorter work days, and otherwise adapting to different peoples sleep.
They’re talking about exposure to the sun, that’s nothing to do with capitalist work schedules.