• ghost_of_faso2
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    11 months ago

    In the grand scheme of things three thousand dead is nothing. Napeleon lost half his army simply retreating from his failed invasion of Russia.

    Would those 3 thousand people still be alive if the Nazis didnt try to genocide Russia? Of course they would, blame the right people.

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      11 months ago

      Nah comrade, really bad argument imo. People’s lives don’t stop mattering just because they’re near some larger tragedy. Each and every one of those 3000 peoples’ existence has the same weight as your own. It’s impossible to comprehend when you read about an unbelievable number of people dying but it’s true. If there are reasons they died then focus on those but saying “3000 dead is nothing” is just honestly really fucking thoughtless.

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        11 months ago

        My point was in a proper analysis of this situation you dont blame the people being genocided for actions that are a response to people enacting a genocide on there own people, such as in the case we’re talking about where the soviets sent people who where enthusiastically selling out there neighbours to be transported to german ovens and gas chambers en masse; when such social conditions are enacted by the Germans and there collabartors there is no response that doesnt end in innocent people dying in some way.

        The USSR did not create these conditions or social reality, I wont blame them for not making the perfect choices given that.

        Thats why 3000 dead in this specific context is nothing; give your sympathy to the hundreds of thousands of people who died in German, Polish and Ukranian concentration camps before the USSR sent anyone away and your scorn for the people who put the USSR into this situation.

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          11 months ago

          Okay so yeah exactly what I said, focus on the reasons for them dying and not discounting 3000 lives as nothing then talking about Napoleon losing half his army (?)

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        11 months ago

        If your point of conparison is utopia – no one is harmed by any decision, ever – even one broken family is an atrocity.

        If your point of conparison is peer states, or what could have been reasonably done under the real-life circumstances, then yeah, 3000 people pales in conparison to the overall human cost of WWII.