• DamarcusArt
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    11 months ago

    I think this guy’s implication that the US settlers weren’t “sent by an empire” and therefore weren’t colonisers is a very careful and deliberate tactic.

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      11 months ago

      this is a tiny part of the slight of hands going on here, they also want to move the discussion into the realm of philosophical ideas, as it happened multiple times with people who really despise BLM and need their harvard chair. The next is the intellectually lazy “context makes comparisons awkward” claim which is NEVER really backed up, but just hinted and gestured at

      But anyway, German Wiedertäufers were not sent by empire, the puritans were not sent by empire, the immigration waves in the 19th and 20th century were not sent by an empire. Nordau, Herzl, Jabotinsky all called the zionist immigrators Settler, I have not read the Labor Zionists, but they probs also did, btw they were mostly premarxian and not some die hard socialists who just couldnt bear antisemitism

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        It’s so frustrating, because there is so much sleight of hand, so many lies, so much deception, that attacking any one point still leaves dozens of other points unassaulted. So they can act like their position is a superior one because anyone trying to point out the flaws gets bogged down trying to tackle every incorrect point one after another, and it is always easier to just make up bullshit than it is to combat it.