• Krause [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    Wayland does not work properly on NVidia hardware

    That’s a feature, stop buying hardware from vendors that treat GNU/Linux and *BSD users as second-class citizens and locks them into proprietary drivers.

    Wayland is biased toward Linux and breaks BSD

    Seems to work just fine on FreeBSD.

    Wayland breaks games

    Games are developed for X11. And if you run a game on Wayland, performance is subpar due to things like forced vsync. Only recently, some Wayland implementations (like KDE KWin) let you disable that.

    Gaming performance is actually better on Wayland.

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      7 months ago

      That’s a feature, stop buying hardware from vendors that treat GNU/Linux and *BSD users as second-class citizens and locks them into proprietary drivers.

      Nowadays I buy a new graphics card maybe twice a decade. I’m not changing the card for software.

      Also, we’re all using proprietary hardware. Be serious. If you tried to never use anything proprietary you’d never use anything. You’re using like a dozen of them right now.

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        7 months ago

        Also, we’re all using proprietary hardware

        Sure, I have proprietary bits on my kernel and my AMD GPU needs proprietary firmware loaded to work, but that’s a hell lot different than the situation NVIDIA shoves users into. It’s one thing to have small proprietary components that don’t bother me or break my workflow, it’s another to have black box drivers that can bork my setup if I dare to update my packages.

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      7 months ago

      Gaming performance is actually better on Wayland.

      *on some games…

      Did you read your own source? They covered:

      Cyberpunk2077 (slight advantage to Wayland on AMD, slight advantage to X.Org on Nvidia)
      DiRT Rally 2.0 ( X.Org is clear winner…)
      F1 22 (Slight advantage to Wayland on AMD, clear advantage to X.Org on Nvidia)
      GTA V (Clear advantage to X.Org Nvidia only… Since AMD was having driver issues with this game)
      Hitman 3 (Slight advantage to Wayland on AMD, clear advantage to X.Org on Nvidia)
      Metro Last Light Redux (Slight advantage to Wayland on AMD, clear advantage to X.Org on Nvidia)
      Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Slight advantage to Wayland on AMD, clear advantage to X.Org on Nvidia)
      Total War: Three Kingdoms (Slight advantage to Wayland on AMD, clear advantage to X.Org on Nvidia)
      X-Plane 12 (Slight advantage to Wayland on AMD, clear advantage to X.Org on Nvidia)
      Quake 2 RTX (slight advantage to Wayland on AMD, slight advantage to X.Org on Nvidia)

      Where “slight” is within a few frames… let’s call it 0-5 frames… and clear advantage is ~10 frames+…

      It’s clear that X.org is better overall. It’s capable of giving the user more options in hardware with less bullshit.