• @pingveno@lemmy.ml
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    02 years ago

    When there is a strong bias in these sectors that shapes the opinion of the people.

    There has been a vigorous debate for a while over what to do. Also, maybe give the people a little agency. These are the same people who threw off the yolk of the KMT, who had ruled under martial law for decades. They have brains, they can think for themselves.

    Again, pretty much no country, including US, recognizes Taiwan as being independent from China.

    And again, this has absolutely nothing to do with the reality on the ground. It’s all to do with China threatening to either start a war or withdraw support depending on what country or institution we’re talking about. China is large enough to have essentially blackmailed the world into playing along with its fantasy.

    If China can convince the people of Taiwan to completely voluntarily rejoin without invading, fine. But right now China’s offer is not looking enticing. Their current offer is “one country two systems”, and given how flagrantly China’s ignored the agreement in Hong Kong there’s no reason Taiwan should trust China to not just rip up any agreements.

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      2 years ago

      There has been a vigorous debate for a while over what to do. Also, maybe give the people a little agency. These are the same people who threw off the yolk of the KMT, who had ruled under martial law for decades. They have brains, they can think for themselves.

      These people have very little agency. Can you at least acknowledge the massive interference US is doing in Taiwan the likes of which US has never tolerated anywhere close to its own border. This isn’t a unique scenario either, there’s a long pattern of US destabilizing countries this way.

      Why exactly is US spending all this money on influencing politics in Taiwan. Surely you don’t seriously believe it’s because US cares about wellbeing of Taiwanese people. US doesn’t even care about wellbeing of the people living in US.

      And again, this has absolutely nothing to do with the reality on the ground. It’s all to do with China threatening to either start a war or withdraw support depending on what country or institution we’re talking about. China is large enough to have essentially blackmailed the world into playing along with its fantasy.

      Can you explain to me on what basis you think US has a right to interfere in the region, or why you think US should have any say over what happens in Taiwan?

      Furthermore, if US wasn’t interfering in Taiwan then there wouldn’t be a problem in the first place. We would live in a much better world if US stopped trying to play world police and focused on solving mounting domestic problems.

      If China can convince the people of Taiwan to completely voluntarily rejoin without invading, fine. But right now China’s offer is not looking enticing.

      Are you seriously suggesting that what happened to people of Ukraine is the more enticing alternative?

      and given how flagrantly China’s ignored the agreement in Hong Kong there’s no reason Taiwan should trust China to not just rip up any agreements.

      Please do elaborate on what you mean by that exactly.