Today we’re announcing a new project: LibreOffice New Generation. This isn’t about the software, but about the people behind it. As you probably know, LibreOffice is made by a worldwide community of certified developers and volunteers, working on the source code, translations, documentation, design, QA, marketing, infrastructure and other areas. Well, we want to reach […]
I get the sentiment but I don’t think you know how much of a zombie project Apache OpenOffice is. The only reason they release a minor update every year is because Apache Foundation rules require it to be considered an active project. Apache OpenOffice still can’t support .docx files even. It’s actually incredibly irresponsible for them to even to pretend to be active because there are ongoing security flaws that they can’t patch because they lack resources on their dated code.
On top of that, the reason no one contributes to Apache Open Office is because it’s licensed with the apache license! It’s a permissive license meaning there’s no incentive for any organization to contribute back to the project. OX-suite, and Libreoffice both picked off what was useable and have left the project to rot. It’s essentially being run by some die hards who would rather expose boomers to security flaws and shitty outdated software tarnishing Open Source reputation rather than admit defeat and fold into Libreoffice.
I will support Apache OpenOffice to see as far can be developed. LibreOffice is dual licensed under a weak-copyleft license (LGPL) and a permissive license (MPL). That means you choose the one you want when you use the software (that means dual-licensed). A little part is under GPLv3 which I must recognize.
About Office Open XML (OOXML) support, I would be glad if they drop it with other formats in editing support and leave it as read-only/import. ODF 1.3 is also not approved standard yet and I use 1.0/1.1 to ensure compatibility with other tools even when ApacheOO supports ODF 1.2 at all.
In other words, you’re selfish because you’re OK with old people and the uninformed using shitty software so you can feel a personal moral victory based on a software license. You know Lemmy is GPL right? Why are you posting on here if you dislike copyleft so much that you’ll waste your time supporting a project that should have been dead years ago and is literally running on the spite of a few people with inflated egos?
Eh??? I never said the copyleft license is bad. I just tried to delete the myth around it in LibreOffice.
I try to license my software and use software under GNU AGPL whenever is possible (Lemmy, OnlyOffice Desktop Editors, etc)
ApacheOO is not a dead project yet and that is what I am trying to defend. Even with slow development I still see a niche in modest computers where performance is better than LibreOffice 7 and where the new features are not needed and I want to support it to see it again as a normal suite in use.
You know that software development is not a competition, isn’t it?
You’re delusional if you think it will ever be used as a normal suite. It’s dying of bit rot. Recommend reading their Dev mailing list, it’s just about the workarounds they try to make work so they can run builds. They’re building updates on popsicle sticks.
On top of that we now have onlyoffice, OX, LO, and other open source office suites that can do more than AOO. I only see your support of AOO as serving to hurt the reputation of the free software community, though I suppose your actions in themselves proves the critics right that open source community software can be inherently risky because of irresponsible actors such as yourself.
No, there’s 0% chance. Look at their Dev mailing list, they can’t even build the software on modern Linux systems they need to make workarounds to use outdated versions of Java. It’s quite embarrassing.
It is still maintained by the ASF with bugfix releases every year and they expressed opinion to see more developers participating.
Do they plan on continuing feature releases anytime soon?
I think they plan to do it since they call for more developers but I am not sure at all about it.
For me it is better to have a code cleaning and bug fixes releases by now.
I get the sentiment but I don’t think you know how much of a zombie project Apache OpenOffice is. The only reason they release a minor update every year is because Apache Foundation rules require it to be considered an active project. Apache OpenOffice still can’t support .docx files even. It’s actually incredibly irresponsible for them to even to pretend to be active because there are ongoing security flaws that they can’t patch because they lack resources on their dated code. On top of that, the reason no one contributes to Apache Open Office is because it’s licensed with the apache license! It’s a permissive license meaning there’s no incentive for any organization to contribute back to the project. OX-suite, and Libreoffice both picked off what was useable and have left the project to rot. It’s essentially being run by some die hards who would rather expose boomers to security flaws and shitty outdated software tarnishing Open Source reputation rather than admit defeat and fold into Libreoffice.
Sorry for the late reply.
https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=openoffice.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/AOO42X
I will support Apache OpenOffice to see as far can be developed. LibreOffice is dual licensed under a weak-copyleft license (LGPL) and a permissive license (MPL). That means you choose the one you want when you use the software (that means dual-licensed). A little part is under GPLv3 which I must recognize.
About Office Open XML (OOXML) support, I would be glad if they drop it with other formats in editing support and leave it as read-only/import. ODF 1.3 is also not approved standard yet and I use 1.0/1.1 to ensure compatibility with other tools even when ApacheOO supports ODF 1.2 at all.
In other words, you’re selfish because you’re OK with old people and the uninformed using shitty software so you can feel a personal moral victory based on a software license. You know Lemmy is GPL right? Why are you posting on here if you dislike copyleft so much that you’ll waste your time supporting a project that should have been dead years ago and is literally running on the spite of a few people with inflated egos?
Eh??? I never said the copyleft license is bad. I just tried to delete the myth around it in LibreOffice.
I try to license my software and use software under GNU AGPL whenever is possible (Lemmy, OnlyOffice Desktop Editors, etc)
ApacheOO is not a dead project yet and that is what I am trying to defend. Even with slow development I still see a niche in modest computers where performance is better than LibreOffice 7 and where the new features are not needed and I want to support it to see it again as a normal suite in use.
You know that software development is not a competition, isn’t it?
You’re delusional if you think it will ever be used as a normal suite. It’s dying of bit rot. Recommend reading their Dev mailing list, it’s just about the workarounds they try to make work so they can run builds. They’re building updates on popsicle sticks.
On top of that we now have onlyoffice, OX, LO, and other open source office suites that can do more than AOO. I only see your support of AOO as serving to hurt the reputation of the free software community, though I suppose your actions in themselves proves the critics right that open source community software can be inherently risky because of irresponsible actors such as yourself.
No, there’s 0% chance. Look at their Dev mailing list, they can’t even build the software on modern Linux systems they need to make workarounds to use outdated versions of Java. It’s quite embarrassing.