Today I was reading about a device the military has access to called ADS that is used as a crowd control measure. It fires a concentrated beam of electromagnetic waves at targets, stimulating the sensation of being on fire.

Is it possible to defeat this new tool of worker oppression and if so how? Can protesters affordably defeat this measure on a mass scale?

  • @BobsonDugnutt
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    4 years ago

    I don’t know for sure (I’m not an engineer) but I have a strong suspicion that those emergency Mylar blankets would work to reflect(?) most of the EM radiation.

    The blankets are cheap, portable, readily accessible, and there’s very little to lose by trying it out. Just make sure that when you do raise it that you fold the blanket in around your hands as if you were using a fire blanket (plenty of instructional diagrams online for that.)

    It would probably be worth having multiple so that you could deploy your own and then move to cover a comrade on the ground and drop a blanket on them so they could cover themselves and so on.

    I wonder how much juice the device uses… if we are fortunate it won’t be able to sustain long bursts and/or it will chew through too much battery for it to be used constantly for more than a short period.

    • @Azirahael
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      14 years ago

      No. Won’t work. I’t microwave, not light. Metal foil, or in a pinch, a soaking wet blanket.

      • @BobsonDugnutt
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        I’m trying to figure out how a frequency in the range of IR wouldn’t be reflected by Mylar; Mylar is literally foil bonded to a plastic layer designed to reflect IR radiation back to a person who is wrapped in it.

        Why do you think that it won’t work?

        • @Azirahael
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          23 years ago

          Because i am an engineer. And you just compared water to petrol, because they are both liquids.

          IR is light. Radio waves are not. They may both be photons, but they are quite different. Like ice and liquid water. Both H2), both different.,

          Mylar does not reflect radio. Metals do. So unless your mylar ALSO includes metal, it won’t work. Just because light and radiowaves both have a frequency, does not make them the same.

          It’s NOT IR. All your comments are wrong.

          Ultra high freq radio has some very bizarre properties, like making things of a certain size catch fire, but not other things. But it’s still basically radio. OR microwave if you like.

          There are only 2 ways it can cause pain: Either by actually doing things to you, like cooking you just a bit. Which would mean that if they left it on too long, it would do some damage.

          OR, it’s artificially stimulating your nerves, due to nerve induction. Yes, it’s a real thing, used in some forms of therapy. Yes, you could make the bene gesserit pain box. This would mean that toughing it out without getting hurt, is possible.

          Also, you have LRADS [sound based] mixed up with ADS [Microwave].

          ADS should be blockable by anything that stops microwaves. Sheet metal for example. Make a light shield out of sheet metal. Also, microwaves interact with water molecules. That’s how they cook stuff. This should be similar. a wet blanket should also stop it. Wrap yourself in several layers of metal foil.