Update:
The comments from this post will not be removed as to preserve the discussion around the announcement. Any continued discussions outside of this thread that violate server rules will be removed. We feel that everyone that has an opinion, and wanted to vent, has been heard.

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Original post:
Yesterday, we received information about the planned federation by Hexbear. The announcement thread can be found here: https://www.hexbear.net/post/280770. After reviewing the thread and the comments, it became evident that allowing Hexbear to federate would violate our rules.

Our code of conduct and server rules can be found here.

The announcement included several concerning statements, as highlighted below:

  • “Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated.”
  • “The West’s role in the world, through organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the World Bank - among many others - are deeply harmful to the billions of people living both inside and outside of their imperial core.”
  • “These organizations constitute the modern imperial order, with the United States at its heart - we are not fooled by the term “rules-based international order.” It is in the Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished. When and how this will occur, and what precisely comes after, is the cause of great debate and discussion on this site, but it is necessary for a better world.”

The rhetoric and goal of Hexbar are clear based on their announcement: to “dismantle western propaganda” and "demolish organizations such as NATO” shows that Hexbar has no intention of "respecting the rules of the community instance in which they are posting/commenting.” It’s to push their beliefs and ideology.

In addition, several comments from a Hexbear admin, demonstrate that instance rules will not be respected.

Here are some examples:

“I can assure you there will be no lemmygrad brigades, that energy would be better funneled into the current war against liberalism on the wider fediverse.”

“All loyal, honest, active and upright Communists must unite to oppose the liberal tendencies shown by certain people among us, and set them on the right path. This is one of the tasks on our ideological front.”

Overall community comments:

To clarify, for those who have inquired about why Hexbear versus Lemmygrad, it should be noted that we are currently exploring the possibility of defederating from Lemmygrad as well based on similar comments Hexbear has made.

Defederation should only be considered as a last resort. However, based on their comments and behavior, no positive outcomes can be expected.

We made the decision to preemptively defederate from Hexbear for these reasons. While we understand that not everyone may agree with our decision, we believe it is important to prioritize the best interests of our community.

  • nephs
    105·
    11 months ago

    It’s funny how people in the west can’t imagine on their wildest dreams an actually competent government that won’t just be controlled to make things easier for their rich elite (the bourgeoisie, for the well informed).

      • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
        104·
        11 months ago

        instead of wanting to tear down the most successful institutions of human health, safety, and wellbeing

        No, we don’t want to tear down Cuba.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
            35·
            11 months ago

            Just be cause the US does something doesn’t mean ‘the west’ supports it

            It literally does.

            Otherwise the rest of the West would do literally anything to stop the US when it does awful shit.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                43·
                11 months ago

                My country does support slavery, because my country is the US. It also supports genocide because it’s the US and it supports racism because it’s the US.

                Blaming me for that would be ridiculous, because I’m basically powerless. But like, I can criticize the UK for not standing up the US on its use of prison labor and its genocidal programs and its racism. I can criticize France and Canada and Australia for it too.

                Let’s not pretend the West is powerless to stop the US from doing whatever it wants. If they wanted to, these countries could make the US hurt for the things it does and force it to back down. They could even force the US to stop supporting Israeli apartheid.

                They won’t, because they ultimately support the US more than they dislike the things the US does.

                  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                    24·
                    11 months ago

                    Barely half of the citizenry here votes, and when they do they often see their votes discarded because of electoral college bullshit.

                    In my state they destroyed the results of the 2020 caucus by sabotaging the vote counting app to stop the socialist from winning.

                    Lets not pretend like voters have power lol

              • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
                44·
                11 months ago

                You claimed socialists shouldn’t try to tear down some of the best systems in the world, I said that none of us are going after Cuba.

                Edit: my bad, I got you confused with another thread.

                I’m not sure they’re from hexbear, but IDK. It is a silly bit but I dont get why it is bothering people so much?