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  • @CriticalResist8OPMA
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    32 years ago

    Ah, you lost me there unfortunately:

    But why not both keep it as a safety net and create real opportunities? Rather than getting rid of safety nets, seat belts, etc, shouldn’t we try to avoid needing them but still have them?

    There are two situations, one being prostitution in capitalism and the other prostitution in socialism.

    In capitalism, prostitution is never going to be abolished – and we see that with groups trying to get it legalised, regulated, and “detabooifed”. This is not a judgment but just the facts we are living in.

    In socialism, we are inheriting that structure & institution and must decide what to do with it. We are entirely able then to provide programmes so as to make prostitution so irrelevant, it can be banned and made illegal. I addressed illegality in my article; it doesn’t necessarily mean that prostitutes would be jailed for providing their services, but that there is a legal basis to enrol them in the programmes. These could look much like China’s did (or the USSR before them, or Cuba…) – provide housing, provide education and then job opportunities. Following from the examples of past and present socialism, I have no reason to believe there is no material way today to cut prostitution straight up – this is the material reality we are currently in. It’s not a safety net for the women who are trafficked into it, and so should be a priority for a socialist state to take care of. As Parenti said, there are no poor countries, there are over-exploited countries. Huge amounts of wealth are being siphoned by the national and international bourgeoisie, when they could be used right now on their people. Thus I can’t think of any country that couldn’t tackle prostitution and pornography right away.

    So indeed:

    The author herself used sex work to provide housing and medical care for herself and her family. Would she have been better off if sex work had been abolished before she could buy her mother’s cancer medicine?

    We can assume not, but that is in a capitalist framework and I think even she recognizes this is the nature of prostitution in capitalism. Anything is better than starving to death, some workers even accept slave contracts (e.g. when your employer holds your passport). We must aim that this does not happen to anyone and that they do not have to resort to such choices.

    Only the patriarchy regards the performer’s body as sold and degraded

    I wouldn’t say only the patriarchy does this. The objective analysis is that most prostitutes (by and large they are trafficked in the so-called third world) are not doing this by any choice, they are doing it for survival and sometimes under duress. Thus they do not have labour-power to sell, the only commodity the proletarian can sell to survive, and they must sell the only next thing they can: their body. They are cut out of the formal economy. I lifted this completely from the other article, under the section called “Selling the only commodity we have left: our bodies”.

    • T34 [they/them]
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      12 years ago

      it doesn’t necessarily mean that prostitutes would be jailed for providing their services, but that there is a legal basis to enrol them in the programmes.

      That makes sense, if these programs are about keeping them safe from bad pimps/johns and helping them exit sex work when they’re ready.

      Hey, thanks so much for publishing this article and taking the time to write detailed responses! I need to read more about the topic, maybe the Parenti book mentioned in the proletarianfeminist article.