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  • Definitely adamant, but from what I’ve seen, nothing out of the ordinary on Lemmy where everyone is free to bring to certain topics and removed about them constantly and anywhere (Reddit, Musk, cops…). Like everyone is free to pile on and brigade against Unity right now, so I don’t see the difference.

    If anything, I’ve definitely seen more toxicity from some defensive Sync users myself.

    Back when lots of apps were coming out, I was also questioning how weird it is to have a closed-source ad-supported client for this platform that’s all about open source and privacy, and was called all kinds of names. I’ve blocked quite a few people at that time rather than reporting, that’s what I prefer to do.

    I asked an admin directly several times if there was anything else than these kinds of incidents, and couldn’t get a straight answer.



  • For those who missed this. Izzy, the (only) mod at the science fiction community, was banned by admins.

    The reason is him often complaining about there being ads in the Sync client for Lemmy.

    Admins take that as toxic behavior and harassment, and ultimately banned him. Which… Take it as you wish, the modlog and comment histories are available.

    Izzy came back from another account to say their goodbyes, as they no longer wish to be involved anyway. This post seems to have disappeared.

    Then a bit later, admin came to SF to make a post looking for new mods. When people brought up the situation, they locked the thread.








  • but sometimes you have kids online who don’t obviously seem like kids because you can’t see them

    Point taken… Altho personally I don’t care about how old someone is. When I game online or just squat on Lemmy/Reddit/forum, I’m fine taking to people whether they’re 13 or 70. If anything, younger people tend to be more open minded, which possibly comes with having access to all the information.

    But yea I guess some topics probably hit different when you grow up in a certain style of environment. Still, when I babysit kids, I find they are curious about everything and are willing to change their mind if they get explained something realistically. And I don’t see younger people ask loaded questions as often as older folks do.

    I’d imagine if you’re not in tech circles you also don’t find out much about privacy risks.

    I don’t begrudge people for not knowing things. What I find interesting is how they react when they learn about something, or their initial train of thought. You probably know the experiment of asking randos “should dihydrohen monoxide be banned?”

    I have this hobby almost, I like finding new things, weird and divisive stuff. Oddball topics, weird fetishes, strange habits, crazy hobbies, wild art, whatever. If there’s a community with “weird” in the title, I’ll probably subscribe to it.

    And it also gives me some insight into how outsiders react when they stumble upon that stuff. Most people, when confronted with something out of their ordinary, tend to go “damn good thing I’m normal, everyone is weird” or worse. So I guess it is human nature, but you can also imagine how tiring it can get.


  • I understand and even appreciate that people have different priorities, worries and preferences. Which is why I dislike the attitude some take, “if you don’t care about X, you’re part of the problem”. It may even be true in lots of cases, but we can’t all care about the same things, less we all worry about everything all the time, and that’s not good or realistic.

    Funny thing though. I’ve seen people have civil debates about the most sensitive, divisive topics, as long as the initial question or statement comes from a place of genuine curiosity.

    But whenever I see people ask the “why is privacy important?” question, it’s never just “am I missing something?” but more of a “gimme all the ads, collect everything about me, I don’t care”, sometimes with the “you conspiracy theorists weirdos, nobody cares about you and you’re probably pedos anyway” sprinkled in.

    So it’s a bit tiring to see this over and over, hence my snark at the beginning. And I don’t know where the attitude is coming from. Maybe it’s just a relatively new issue and people aren’t used to constantly being exposed to the debate, like with some other topics?

    But in that case I gather that it should be the opposite problem - we used to have much more privacy than we have now, that just has to be obvious (hence the questions in the first place), so the proper question to ask would be “wait, why is everyone so interested in everything I do all of a sudden? Why is every corporation suddenly collecting all my data and giving me free stuff in return while raking in billions of profits? Hm, sus”

    Eh maybe I’m missing something.


  • My point is that if it’s something that clearly lots of people care about, it’s probably a good idea to think a little.

    The “why anyone would” part is in the “why people make a fuss”. I don’t wish to be a teacher here picking apart every word, don’t get me wrong, but people get upset if you invalidate what they care about. It’s like telling someone who’s angry to calm down.

    Fortunately people here have more patience heh.



  • Well imagine coming to a vegetarian forum and asking: “Why does everyone make a fuss about killing animals? I eat meat three times every day, go on hunts every month, sometimes just for fun, I don’t even eat those animals. Also I don’t care about cages and all that, animals don’t have souls anyway.”

    It may also be a genuine question, but sometimes it’s good to spend 10 seconds before asking, either by just thinking or maybe do a very brief web search.

    In general, questions of the “I don’t care about X so I don’t see why anyone else could” kind tend to be like that. You can ask, but you can also expect people won’t want to talk to you.