But the sister also performed that experiment in the worst possible way, why did she microwave the actual tea bag?!

To make the point that it didn’t matter, because to her it did not. However she was as you noted hoist by her own petard in the end.

Ha. Everyone involved was American, my aunt’s just cultured above the level of most of us plebs.

George Washington will come for you, if you don’t.

My sister once tried to tell my aunt that there was 0 difference between tea which had been heated up in a microwave with the tea bag already in it versus tea that had been made to my aunt’s specifications (boil the water, not in the microwave, and then put the tea in it and let it steep).

They had a vigorous disagreement about it, which ended with my sister making up two mugs of tea as a blind taste test and then presenting them to my aunt. My aunt instantly told her which one was the microwave tea and which was the proper tea. My sister admitted to the correction and from then on made the tea according to specifications.

More like, neighbour invites everybody to their pool, but if you go, you have to sign a legal agreement that you invite everybody to your whole house.

Incorrect. No one gets access to the rest of your company’s source code. It’s just that, since they gave you a ton of wonderful stuff for free, you have to do likewise if you’re going to build on their stuff. If you don’t want that, then go find some other swimming pool so to speak (which it sounds like you’ve done).

It boggles my mind how people think this is unintended. “My company tried to build on GPL3 software, but IDK if the authors realized this, but we’re not allowed to do that unless we share our contributions back in turn! What an error! As soon as they find out, they’ll surely change the licensing to one that is more amenable to what we want to do in terms of reselling their source code to people without complying on our end with the GPL!”

I can pretty much guarantee you, this will not be a surprise to the people who licensed their code GPL. We have been having this conversation for decades. Your input as to whether it’s “beneficial” to them to restrict you from doing what they don’t want you to do is noted.

“How dare my neighbor put a fence around his pool! I tell you, ever since he did that, my kids can’t swim there and we’ve had to figure out something else to do.”

Works both ways, but it seems like weird way to spend your time trying to act like you’re a voice of reason in front of an audience you’ve already embarrassed yourself in front of many times.

I still remember when you claimed with a straight face that Israel was using nuclear weapons in Syria, and the only reason I didn’t know about it was because I was confused by Western propaganda.

https://lemmy.world/post/23537807/14158168

You’re probably right that as far as the present community’s viewpoint, I am “embarrassing myself” and you are “pointing out” things and so on. That’s because the present community’s viewpoint is detached from reality and based on groupthink, confident presentations, and hostility to outsiders and not much else.

You guys are welcome to your “community,” I guess. I’ve made the point and then belabored it a little bit, I don’t see the point in a continued back and forth so I won’t waste more time.

It’s not “harassment” to disagree, even disagree in a pointed fashion.

Like if someone came onto lemmy.world and made a joke about how bad the moderation is, that’s not “harassment.” That’s just them speaking their mind. In any reasonable space that kind of thing is allowed. I know that on lemmy.ml, it is sometimes not. Maybe in this case it is not? I don’t know. Maybe it is, let’s see.

I’m well aware that lemmy.ml as a community doesn’t tolerate being spoken to in such a disobedient fashion or criticized. I think that’s silly. My comment was sincerely not badly intended, just more along the lines of “wake up you guys are being ridiculous” (both about the screaming intoleration of anyone in American politics who seems like they might be poised to make some kind of progress, and also now about the defensive hivemind behavior that gets all bent out of shape about anyone who disagrees with the herd about that or various other issues).

Up to you man. It was meant as a one-off comment, but of course in standard lemmy.ml fashion now we have to have a big conversation about it where you continue to comment hostility to try to discourage anyone from speaking their mind about that kind of thing in the future. The purpose is to silence dissent. I probably won’t really go back and forth about it (what even would be the point?), but that’s my intent in making these comments. If I was trying to harass I would probably come to .ml more often, but I don’t, I only found this one because it was a crosspost.

https://clip.cafe/tombstone-1993/i-abhor-ugliness-does-mean-were-not-friends-any-more/

2035: In other news, the newly reanimated body of Karl Marx has been elected to the Virginia House of Representatives

Lemmy.ml: Until he’s willing to CLEARLY AND UNAMBIGUOUSLY call it a “genocide” and STRONGLY indicate support for trans rights he’s STILL FUCKING DEAD TO ME I’m voting for Jill Stein

https://xkcd.com/1400/

He’s already been proved in court to have committed rape, and very credibly accused of having raped a 13-year-old.

I’m not saying that what’s in the files is not even worse. But what’s already in the public record is already enough and then some.

Just because it would take 15 more years for the rolling average to catch up[1] doesn’t mean we haven’t exceeded 1.5°C.

The single-year data point for 2024 was 1.55°C above pre-industrial levels. Sure, 2025 might turn out to be colder than that. It probably won’t. But whatever, the heating is not decreasing. We have already hit the horrific level, and since we are not slowing down our emissions at anywhere near the required level, we are more or less guaranteed to hit 2°C beyond that, and then the collapse. Every little bit of reduction still counts for a lot (simply because the scale of the tragedy is going to be so apocalyptically globe-spanning) but the time for preventing the tipping points was circa 2000.

[1] If it continued up linearly which it will not

Innuendo Studios’s The Alt-Right Playbook should be absolutely mandatory reading for anyone who is planning on arguing about politics on the internet. There are some missing things simply because it came about in an earlier internet-arguing generation, but everything in there is crucially vital and still accurate, and it hits most of what in my opinion people should be thinking about if they care about convincing others of political things on the internet.

That is absolutely false…

If it helps, you can think of the “person being educated” as all the people reading the comments. If you are making coherent points and justifying what you’re saying then people will pick up on it. I think online conversation (in the aggregate) has a huge amount to do with influencing how people look at the world in modern society, probably more so than TV or newspapers or “online newspapers.” That’s not to say that any individual Lemmy poster or even Lemmy as a whole has any kind of move-the-needle influence, but on the whole, the influence from “the internet” is huge.

The person you’re arguing with will probably not be convinced (certainly not after one conversation just do a total 180 and say they agree with you now), but even on Lemmy there are dozens or hundreds of people reading your stuff and seeing whether you make sense and being impacted by it. It means the temptation to just turn it into a shit-throwing contest on both sides is important to avoid, in favor of making compelling arguments in a way that people can get behind, if you actually care about your points landing for anyone who isn’t already a convert.

Seth Meyers has an absolutely inimitable way of shitting on Trump. It is, basically, just explaining what happened in clear terms, just with a slight amount of humor and occasional jokes. Mostly, though, he’s just explaining what happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Coke6nvWs30

She was pretty emotional at times. She only really smiled the once. You can see that it fucked her up a little bit, she’s just got enough fire not to let it bother her on camera and mostly get on with what she feels like needs to be said. That is my read of it at least, from my uninformed perspective.

Well, yeah. The FBI at the time had some kind of idea that if treasonous behavior by prominent people in the US government was revealed, something would be done.

They were wrong, but it’s not an unreasonable thing to think.

The decision to do so came in spite of the fact that neither of the two previous UN reports on which the Secretary-General based his findings had attributed to Hamas a single act of conflict-related sexual violence on October 7, or found evidence of a plan or orders to commit sexual violence.

What an incredibly artful construction.

The report says that people who invaded on October 7th committed a whole bunch of instances of rape and sexual violence. The report didn’t try to say that it was “Hamas,” since there were people who joined in the invasion who were not part of Hamas and it was impossible to allocate which person was responsible for which act. Also, “a plan or orders” is a big canard, since part of the laws of war for decades has been that it is your responsibility as a commander to prevent your troops from raping anybody, not just avoid specifically ordering them to do so.

This whole sentence is technically true, but it’s trying to twist around a report that says “a lot of instances of rape happened during the attack” as if it was saying “not a single instance of rape happened during the attack.”

The strongest evidence presented in the Secretary General’s report for the claim that Hamas was responsible for sexual violence on October 7 was the alleged presence of several bodies undressed from the waist down with hands tied (a claim we scrutinize below)

Not true. There were also firsthand accounts. Even that aside, what would your conclusion be if you found that particularly the women in a bunch of civilians that got attacked often were found with their hands tied behind them and naked or naked from the waist down?

By contrast, the report details no less than “12 incidents of conflict-related sexual violence perpetrated by Israeli armed and security forces

Yes. They made sure to emphasize that the Israelis were doing it too, and gathered evidence of their crimes as well. Why does that cancel out all their conclusions about sexual assault of Israelis on and after October 7th?

Man, you don’t need to pretend Hamas’s war crimes don’t exist in order to condemn Israel for their war crimes.

Orwell’s description of “doublethink” is extremely accurate. They know that the left is violent and wild, like really believe it, and they also believe that their opponents deserve death and it’s a good thing when it happens.

The brain is a powerful tool. Once you teach it certain self-deceptive patterns it will happily sabotage itself if that’s what you want it to do. Skillful use of language (“violence” versus “what they deserve”) is key.