Are you lost? This is not reddit. Also, Russia could stop attacking an european nation to gain some respect back. But they won’t. Instead they threaten everyone with nukes daily and cry why nobody likes them.

Oh, obviously not, USA was definitely not defending itself. I was just pointing out that it would be ridiculous to say that USA was committing genocide on its own citizens when they sent them to war.

So the argument is basically same as saying that the americans committed genocide during vietnam war because of the draft. I think it’s extremely common practice to require citizens to defend your country during an invasion. I would argue this is done in most wars.

Sure, it’s not great, but I don’t think Zelensky is doing anything unexpected. Any European country would likely do more or less the same if Russia invaded.

As a European that’s what I expect our government to do during an invasion. I would not call that genocide even if I’m sent to die.

So your point is that Ukraine is committing genocide by forcing their citizens to defend their country? And somehow they are the bad guys, not the imperialist Russians?

Maybe I misunderstood, but if not, that is some impressive mental gymnastics.

Could we please let this 30+ year old joke just die?

So basically you’re saying that we should not believe Trump when he says he wants to do something? Until he actually does it? Otherwise it’s a conspiracy theory?

I guess this how politics works today. Quite sad really.