She had to be cut out of the wire and miscarried soon after.

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    I mean, there were still razor wire booby traps in the water. Whether or not they were forced to cross is irrelevant, literal death traps hidden in the water is absolutely inhumane.

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          It’s a dry river. But this is just a normal fence that cattlemen all over the state use to keep people out/off their ranches.

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              Right, because a booby trap is illegal so you won’t see that anywhere, but barb-wire like this, is 100% legal and used all over the state.

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                “Booby trap” is a description of its concealedness. These are concealed, on purpose. That’s the issue.

                Moreover, they’re not barbed wire, they’re razor wire. There’s a massive difference between barbed wire and razor wire.

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                  There is no legal distinction. Anywhere you are allowed to use barbwire you are allowed to use Razorwire ™ and both are used all over the world as passive barriers and no where are barbwire or “razorwire” considered a “booby trap.”

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                    There is no legal distinction.

                    Using legality as a gauge for morality is not always the best thing to do, especially when these are law enforcement agencies operating entirely within the law.

                    no where are barbwire or “razorwire” considered a “booby trap.”

                    So you’re being wilfully obtuse. Nowhere was anyone implying the use of barbed wire is what makes it a booby trap. Every single time it was mentioned, it was clear: it is a booby trap because it is a purposefully hidden device meant to cause harm to those who stumble upon it by accident.

                    It also does matter the distinction between razor wire and barbed wire. Barbed wire you can hold in your hand. You can grip it, move your hand along it, and indeed are unlikely to be very harmed by encountering it; it is designed as an unpleasant deterrant, not a dangerous one. Razorwire, on the other hand, is designed to cause harm: every part of it is dangerous, and an encounter with it would result in deep lacerations.

                    But again, it could be barbed wire and my point would stand: the concealment of it is what makes it a booby trap, and what makes it a problem.

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                Right, because a booby trap is illegal so you won’t see that anywhere

                Except the Rio Grande, I suppose.

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        The trooper’s email said razor wire-wrapped barrels have been placed into the Rio Grande in areas with low visibility, leading to injuries like the woman’s.