This allows America to rearm and continue murdering innocent people. America’s military was getting ready to resupply when the rare earth ban came into effect. Why even negotiate with America anymore. They were in a winning position and they just gave it up. China can go without America but America can’t go without China. And they didn’t even remove all of the tarifs just some of them. China could have gotten far more for that deal if they even wanted to make it. It just feels like a big mistake.
They still have the ban on military uses afaik
A lot of Gordon Changs on hexbear.net
China only suspended the specific counter-measures imposed in reaction to America expanding the “entity list” 14-fold (because that was reversed).
My honest take: XHS is right. China is dominated by neoliberals and has zero intention of challenging the US’s order on any front (see BRICS and dedollarization) because it benefits from this order.
So they suspended the ban because ultimately it’s good for China and they really don’t care about the internationalism portion of communism. That other nations will be destroyed, headed by anti-china puppet regimes, anti-china terrorists will be funded and flourish as a result means nothing to them because these aren’t directly affecting china’s growth atm.
This is hubris that will likely cost them dearly in the future, but again the cpc isn’t thinking about this bc they’ve got neoliberals heading the government.
they’ve got neoliberals heading the government
This is a ridiculous statement. Totally absurd.
Neoliberalism is when half the economy is publicly owned, didn’t you know??
China is dominated by neoliberals and has zero intention of challenging the US’s order
reading the rest of comments, that’s pretty random from your part. china is not neoliberal by any metric…or they’d give “taiwan” a long time ago. probably there’s some kind of strategy to avoid that the orange cretin feels tempted to press the nuke button and don’t fight with a stupid old man with a foot on the tomb
Then why place the ban in the first place? Why would they oppose anything Trump wants if neoliberals dominate China? They should be giving him gold golf clubs, calling him daddy, defunding all their public infrastructure and letting Amazon and Google take over.
To get him to ease the tariffs, they need bargaining power.
Why do they care about easing tariffs if they are neoliberals? China has a monopoly on rare earths. The US has no other source.
For other industries they can appease Trump by offering to build manufacturing in the US which other neolib nations are doing. Some are investing billions into the US.
Are .au rare earths different from .cn rare earths?
The problem is not getting the rare earths. Those are common af. Refining is them is the problem, and China has essentially a global monopoly on it.
So the US can get all the rare earth it wants from Australia. It does not have the capabilities to refine the rew ressources tho, thus still having to rely on China.
Sure, the US could begin to create those capabilities. That would take around a decade… Meanwhile, the window in which the US could feasibly wage war against China closes.
Thanks for your reply. So what is the point of getting rare earths from .au?
Getting them not from China and bolstering US influence in Australia. The former is a dud, for the explained reasons. The latter will suceed and keep Australia a loyal running dog.
Much like the bullshit Ukraine rare earths story awhile back, Australia is not going to fix US supply chains.
If Australia was a competitive replacement, Trump wouldn’t have to lie about all the rare earth deals he’s closed with Xi.
P.S. Trump was saying before the Xi meeting that negotiations would be difficult. Now suddenly it’s all good? I am very doubtful.
Lying makes more sense, unless I’m missing something.
I’m sorry but this is an unserious take. We might not know the reason for this, but to jump the gun and just say China is now dominated by neoliberals makes no sense. Basically all key industries are still publicly owned in China, there are 5 year plans, the population still learns and studies Marx and Marxism in school and they still maintain their commitment to the 2049 goal, I see literally no reason to think China is anywhere close to neoliberal.
Besides, we can criticize China for it’s lack of internationalism and it’s consequences right now while also acknowledging that they have set themselves to become internationalist again also by 2049.
I think it isnt smart to suspect malice, incompetence or negligence, as always. We are talking about a country that has stoically worked towards world domination and even if they, knowing all the details, which we dont, have made a mistake, I still believe in the chinese comrades. Of the five countries that actually teach and preach ML thought, none are in a position to just do what they want, not even china imo. So I guess I’ll wait and see.
Fair. I’ve seen enough however, I don’t anticipate that China will do anything to actually address American encroachment on their region and constant dismissal of their interests until it’s too late.
How do you define “enough”? How does it make a difference to now formally declare to have lost hope in the largest and most successful communist project of all time? I dont think it is marxist at all to go down that route. It feels like reactionary fatalism.
If you would like to discuss this, I would be interested in what Information you have. Whats the situation in the cpc? What are they saying? What is the strategy right now?
Who are you encountering on XHS that is saying China is neoliberal? I don’t mean that as a rhetorical question, I’m seriously asking because I would have thought the platform would be slanted toward a pro-Chinese government narrative (not for any weird reasons, just because it’s a Chinese-centric app for Chinese people living in China and the government is, afaik, popular there).
They’re talking about a Hexbear user with the same name, not somebody from RedNote.
Ohh ok, that makes more sense. I don’t tend to go on hexbear, but I’ve been hearing in passing that it has more anti-China sentiment lately (in the realm of ultra-left if I understand right).
oh… that’s to compensate for the fact they put too much trust in China for liberating them from their US regime - something something revolutionary millenarism .
To be fair, if you read https://hexbear.net/u/xiaohongshu 's take the user is prolly more reasonablely sober to say - yeah, while China had to compromise, US had to compromise as well.
And uh yeah, GlueBear was originally a hexbear.net user - so you can take the user out of hexbear, but you can’t take the hexbear out of the user - and I heard this user can banned there so the user took refuge here.
