While I appreciate the progress we’ve made in diminishing Russia’s warfare capabilities through this proxy war, I believe it’s time for us to take a step back and allow other countries to assume responsibility for the financial burden.
Considering the significance of this conflict, the remaining nations in the free world should be willing to provide ongoing support. It’s not sustainable for our country to continuously fund every European conflict. I’d prrefer we avoid becoming a quasi-imperialist state where we exert control over the rest of the world, and instead empower our allies to take on greater autonomy and responsibility.
This shouldn’t really be a controversial take, but positions like this usually just get downed down under all the low effort “dumb republican” or “dumb liberal” comments. I really hope as a platform we don’t turn into the same toxic place as r/politics and actually take an iota of time to better understand opposing viewpoints before reading some super biased headline and start generalizing.
I think this is a reasonable take. There should be a shared burden proportional to each country’s GDP. Although other countries have been delivering aid and while America is significantly outpacing the pack, they are also outpacing every other country on GDP. I’ll be honest, I can’t be bothered to crunch the math on how proportional this is, but if any countries are sitting things out and letting America do the heavy lifting, they should be handed the tithe dish with a pointed stare. We’re all on this planet together, and I don’t want to share a planet that lets these kind of atrocities happen.
Believe me, there are a lot of European countries who has aided Ukraine for a much bigger percentage of their GDP. And if you stop helping Ukraine, Russia would feel even more empowered. If they succeed in Ukraine who knows what other country they will try to invade.
When you go around demanding tribute like the empires of the past, don’t be surprised when everyone denies your demands. We don’t want an American Empire just as much as we don’t want a Russian Empire.
It’s funny how quickly Americans forget that their allies were in a war for over two decades that they were only involved in because the US was attacked. A war that was lost because of terrible leadership on the part of the US. Because securing the oil supply was more important than decisively defeating the movement that was complicit in an attack on the US.
America is indeed a wealthy ally, but not an honourable ally. Maybe if you could stop thinking about money for a few minutes and put a little bit of priority on the blood of your allies, other countries might respect the US more.
The US owes it’s allies a debt of honour. Honour which has been sorely lacking in the leadership from the US. Bad leadership which does correlate with which party controls the Whitehouse. You should leave foreign policy to people like Joe Biden who actually knows what he’s doing.
The problem is you are implying the Ukraine war is an imperialist conflict between Russia and the U.S… While it’s pretty obvious that Ukraine is defending its sovereignty against an imperialistic state with backing from other democratically minded states.
While I appreciate the progress we’ve made in diminishing Russia’s warfare capabilities through this proxy war, I believe it’s time for us to take a step back and allow other countries to assume responsibility for the financial burden.
Considering the significance of this conflict, the remaining nations in the free world should be willing to provide ongoing support. It’s not sustainable for our country to continuously fund every European conflict. I’d prrefer we avoid becoming a quasi-imperialist state where we exert control over the rest of the world, and instead empower our allies to take on greater autonomy and responsibility.
This shouldn’t really be a controversial take, but positions like this usually just get downed down under all the low effort “dumb republican” or “dumb liberal” comments. I really hope as a platform we don’t turn into the same toxic place as r/politics and actually take an iota of time to better understand opposing viewpoints before reading some super biased headline and start generalizing.
I think this is a reasonable take. There should be a shared burden proportional to each country’s GDP. Although other countries have been delivering aid and while America is significantly outpacing the pack, they are also outpacing every other country on GDP. I’ll be honest, I can’t be bothered to crunch the math on how proportional this is, but if any countries are sitting things out and letting America do the heavy lifting, they should be handed the tithe dish with a pointed stare. We’re all on this planet together, and I don’t want to share a planet that lets these kind of atrocities happen.
Believe me, there are a lot of European countries who has aided Ukraine for a much bigger percentage of their GDP. And if you stop helping Ukraine, Russia would feel even more empowered. If they succeed in Ukraine who knows what other country they will try to invade.
And here are the numbers: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303450/bilateral-aid-to-ukraine-in-a-percent-of-donor-gdp/. Latvia spent 1.24% of their GDP to support Ukraine, USA - 0.37% and mind you there are 9 more countries who helped Ukraine more (GDP wise) than the US.
When you go around demanding tribute like the empires of the past, don’t be surprised when everyone denies your demands. We don’t want an American Empire just as much as we don’t want a Russian Empire.
It’s funny how quickly Americans forget that their allies were in a war for over two decades that they were only involved in because the US was attacked. A war that was lost because of terrible leadership on the part of the US. Because securing the oil supply was more important than decisively defeating the movement that was complicit in an attack on the US.
America is indeed a wealthy ally, but not an honourable ally. Maybe if you could stop thinking about money for a few minutes and put a little bit of priority on the blood of your allies, other countries might respect the US more.
The US owes it’s allies a debt of honour. Honour which has been sorely lacking in the leadership from the US. Bad leadership which does correlate with which party controls the Whitehouse. You should leave foreign policy to people like Joe Biden who actually knows what he’s doing.
The problem is you are implying the Ukraine war is an imperialist conflict between Russia and the U.S… While it’s pretty obvious that Ukraine is defending its sovereignty against an imperialistic state with backing from other democratically minded states.