• Whirlybird@aussie.zone
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      😂 Here in Australia I’m what you’d consider left leaning. I’m all for gay marriage, equal rights, anti-war, and so on. I’ve literally never voted “far right” or “conservative”. Not once in my 20+ years of voting.

      But sure, pretend that the democrats aren’t left wing because….reasons.

      Btw the second you accuse others of being brainwashed just because you disagree with them, you’re the extreme one in the conversation.

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          funds the military which is traditionally a right wing and not left wing American position

          I’m just curious - would you have been in favor of cutting aid to Ukraine? If so, this is the best confirmation of horseshoe theory I’ve ever seen.

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              1. I didn’t call you conservative

              2. I don’t believe as single word you said in your first paragraph

              They should do everything they can to stop fighting ASAP including a surrender to the Russian forces if necessary

              1. Go fuck yourself tankie.

              2. Tens of thousands of taxes from any individual or family does not go towards the war supplies being sent to Ukraine. Unless you’re a multimillionaire - which you are not.

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            If Republicans gain control of the US government I doubt they’ll stop sending weapons to Ukraine. Their ties with US weapons manufacturers run too deep. They’ll just pretend they supported Ukraine all along.

            That imo is very different from the left who sees arms shipments just leading to more death and destruction than would occur otherwise.

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              So the republicans will keep sending guns, while the democrats are the ones that are already sending all the guns and money, yet the left are against it because it leads to death and destruction? What?

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                I’m not sure what’s confusing about this. Republicans don’t stand for anything. Why would you believe them when in comes to Ukraine? They’re just lying in order to score political points and differentiate themselves from democrats.

                The left on the other hand is principled regardless of whether or not you agree with their rationale. It’s not like any leftists wants more death and destruction. They just think that ending weapons shipments is more likely to reduce the chaos and suffering.

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                  Hahaha oh boy, seems this “sub” Or whatever they’re called is too far gone already. “Republicans stand for nothing at all, unlike the noble democrats who stand for god values and the peoples interests” 😂

                  Again though - if democrats want to end weapon shipments, remind me why they’re funneling hundreds of billions of dollars, along with weapons and tanks, to Ukraine?

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        A government that intervenes to stop a strike on the side of a monopoly corporation because the workers are vital to the economy is not left wing. Rainbow corporatocracy is still corporatocracy and your attempt to erase 3/4ths of the political spectrum by charwcterizing neoliberalism as “left” is laughable.

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        Kinda? I mean at least by European standards Democrats are kinda conservative. Not necessarily right wing, but also not left.