Anthony Sabatini, who is running for Congress in Florida's 11th district, reportedly made the remarks during June's Florida Teenage Republicans Youth Summit.
You value your own personal gain over the human rights of the majority of the country. No one makes you vote for them, you choose to because you’re selfish and greedy and don’t care about things that don’t effect you. Any other reason you give is a rationalization.
What motivation could one have for voting for a party that is desperately trying to institute christofascism that doesn’t imply a myopic, selfish worldview?
What does christofascism mean? And would you say all members of the GOP are trying to enforce it, such as: Rand Paul, Chris Christie, and Thomas Massie?
Chris Christie, the politician famous for using his office to punish entire cities for not endorsing his re-election campaign? That one? The same one famous for being an advisor to former president Trump? The one who doesn’t support reproductive rights for women, a position famously inspired by Christian morality? Yeah, he’s a Christofascist.
Christofascism is a far right political ideology that seeks to install Christian fascism. They are famous for advocating political violence against minorities, using weasel words to mask their intentions, and more. Whether or not ALL GOP members are christofascist is irrelevant, as the party platform is christofascist. Meaning, regardless of what you claim to believe, by supporting the GOP you are supporting the rise of fascism in America.
Except voting for an individual candidate is not voting for the party- its voting for one candidate! That candidate may or may not vote with the majority of their party. And there are many prominent examples of congress members of all parties not voting with the majority of their party. Also, what is Christian fascism?
Except it is. The party sets the platform, not the individual. Individuals who go against the platform, on both GOP and Democratic sides do not receive funding from the party. 95% of Democratic votes and 99% of GOP votes are cast on party lines.
Christian fascism is well defined, I guess if you’ve had your head under a rock for the last 10 years you might not have heard of it, but it’s not a new term.
Christian fascism is a term which is used to describe a far-right political ideology that denotes an intersection between fascism and Christianity. It is sometimes referred to as “Christofascism”, a neologism which was coined in 1970 by the liberation theologian Dorothee Sölle.
The party sets the platform, not the individual. Individuals who go against the platform, on both GOP and Democratic sides do not receive funding from the party.
That is true and sucks, but there are some congress people who still get away with it, like Rand Paul at least used to- I haven’t checked for a while.
95% of Democratic votes and 99% of GOP votes are cast on party lines.
Is that actually a true statistic or just hyperbole? If its true I’d love to see the source.
Christian fascism is well defined, I guess if you’ve had your head under a rock for the last 10 years you might not have heard of it, but it’s not a new term.
I mean my questioning is just it seems like the definitions are circular- saying Christian fascism is a combination of Christianity and fascism, but I want to understand what that means in practice.
In practice it looks 100% like the modern GOP. Constant advocation for political violence, demonization of minorities, use of office and power to force Christian morality on non-Christian’s, privatization of public infrastructure, direct cooperation with corporations to suppress labor rights…
Christofascism “disposed or allowed Christians, to impose themselves not only upon other religions but other cultures, and political parties which do not march under the banner of the final, normative, victorious Christ” – as Paul F. Knitter describes Sölle’s view.
Sound familiar?
Sölle saw three uniting themes in U.S. Christofascism at the end of the Cold War: 1) U.S. superiority; 2) the veneration of work and, in the inverse, cruelty toward those who depend on welfare or solidarity; and 3) the lionization of the patriarchal nuclear family and, in the inverse, the demonization of sexual and gender minorities.
That should sound extremely familiar to anyone who’s lived I the US at any point since the start of the 80s at the very least.
Aside, I wish people wouldn’t downvote you. You’ve not done anything worth downvoting you in my opinion, and I’ve gone through and upvoted all of your comments, but it doesn’t do much good. You’ve been respectful, reasonable, and polite.
It’s not my fault that you failed civics in elementary school but you need to go pick up a civics book and read it, because it’s very clear that you haven’t got a clue how our government works.
How can you look at the GOP in congress voting lockstep with the party line and claim that you just vote for the individual?
Or are you just being deliberately obtuse in order to muddy the water for observers so people will be more receptive to your regressive arguments?
I actually did pretty well in my political related classes, I didn’t take civics but various other US history classes, human geography, etc.
How can you look at the GOP in congress voting lockstep with the party line and claim that you just vote for the individual?
Okay I just checked for the past 15 votes(as of July 14th at 15:34 CEST) here is my source
I tallied every vote dissenting from the majority for each party and I actually threw in a 16th because one was a repeat vote just with more members(even though it had a different result):
You value your own personal gain over the human rights of the majority of the country. No one makes you vote for them, you choose to because you’re selfish and greedy and don’t care about things that don’t effect you. Any other reason you give is a rationalization.
You don’t know their motivations, don’t use speculation as an excuse to insult and attack them as a person.
What motivation could one have for voting for a party that is desperately trying to institute christofascism that doesn’t imply a myopic, selfish worldview?
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What does christofascism mean? And would you say all members of the GOP are trying to enforce it, such as: Rand Paul, Chris Christie, and Thomas Massie?
Chris Christie, the politician famous for using his office to punish entire cities for not endorsing his re-election campaign? That one? The same one famous for being an advisor to former president Trump? The one who doesn’t support reproductive rights for women, a position famously inspired by Christian morality? Yeah, he’s a Christofascist.
Christofascism is a far right political ideology that seeks to install Christian fascism. They are famous for advocating political violence against minorities, using weasel words to mask their intentions, and more. Whether or not ALL GOP members are christofascist is irrelevant, as the party platform is christofascist. Meaning, regardless of what you claim to believe, by supporting the GOP you are supporting the rise of fascism in America.
Except voting for an individual candidate is not voting for the party- its voting for one candidate! That candidate may or may not vote with the majority of their party. And there are many prominent examples of congress members of all parties not voting with the majority of their party. Also, what is Christian fascism?
Except it is. The party sets the platform, not the individual. Individuals who go against the platform, on both GOP and Democratic sides do not receive funding from the party. 95% of Democratic votes and 99% of GOP votes are cast on party lines.
Christian fascism is well defined, I guess if you’ve had your head under a rock for the last 10 years you might not have heard of it, but it’s not a new term.
That is true and sucks, but there are some congress people who still get away with it, like Rand Paul at least used to- I haven’t checked for a while.
Is that actually a true statistic or just hyperbole? If its true I’d love to see the source.
I mean my questioning is just it seems like the definitions are circular- saying Christian fascism is a combination of Christianity and fascism, but I want to understand what that means in practice.
If you’re genuinely interested in data, here’s a study.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1065912917722233
In practice it looks 100% like the modern GOP. Constant advocation for political violence, demonization of minorities, use of office and power to force Christian morality on non-Christian’s, privatization of public infrastructure, direct cooperation with corporations to suppress labor rights…
Sound familiar?
That should sound extremely familiar to anyone who’s lived I the US at any point since the start of the 80s at the very least.
Aside, I wish people wouldn’t downvote you. You’ve not done anything worth downvoting you in my opinion, and I’ve gone through and upvoted all of your comments, but it doesn’t do much good. You’ve been respectful, reasonable, and polite.
It’s not my fault that you failed civics in elementary school but you need to go pick up a civics book and read it, because it’s very clear that you haven’t got a clue how our government works.
How can you look at the GOP in congress voting lockstep with the party line and claim that you just vote for the individual?
Or are you just being deliberately obtuse in order to muddy the water for observers so people will be more receptive to your regressive arguments?
I actually did pretty well in my political related classes, I didn’t take civics but various other US history classes, human geography, etc.
Okay I just checked for the past 15 votes(as of July 14th at 15:34 CEST) here is my source
I tallied every vote dissenting from the majority for each party and I actually threw in a 16th because one was a repeat vote just with more members(even though it had a different result):
TOTAL rep dissents 273 dem dissents 114 HR 2670 amendment: 18 rep 0 dem 9 HR 2670 amendment: 19 rep 1 dem 1 HR 2670 amendment: 20(vote 1) rep 4 dem 0 HR 2670 amendment: 20(vote 2) rep 4 dem 0 HR 2670 amendment: 21 rep 3 dem 2 HR 2670 amendment: 22 rep 0 dem 2 HR 2670 amendment: 24 rep 3 dem 17 HR 2670 amendment: 27 rep 41 dem 0 HR 2670 amendment: 28 rep 98 dem 49 HR 2670 amendment: 29 rep 1 dem 0 HR 2670 amendment: 30 rep 74 dem 5 HR 2670 amendment: 31 rep 8 dem 2 HR 2670 amendment: 32 rep 9 dem 0 HR 2670 amendment: 33 rep 25 dem 0 HR 2670 amendment: 34 rep 0 dem 27 HR 2670 amendment: 38 rep 2 dem 0So, I wouldn’t say dissenting from majority votes are particularly one sided.