• drhugsymcfur@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    So because 1-2 Democrats held up progress you’re going to support the party that had all 49-50 members opposed to your goals?

    I empathize with your frustration with the Democratic party but voting 3rd party only puts the Republicans in power. The most useful thing to do within the current voting structure is to use the Primary Elections to try to nominate a more radical senator or representative that thinks like you.

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      1 year ago

      So because 1-2 Democrats held up progress you’re going to support the party that had all 49-50 members opposed to your goals?

      Jesus Christ, centrists need to stop this. Not everyone who is mad at Democrats for a decades long pattern of “ooooops! Just enough Democrats killed that progressive thing! lol vote harder!” supports Republicans.

      • doshin_the_giant@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        What, you didn’t know? The way to drive youth turnout is to constantly scold them for any criticism they have of the democratic party and blame them for any defeat.

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        1 year ago

        I think the issue is the definition of “supports”.

        If you take your (valid) frustration out in the general election then yes, you are supporting republicans in a very material way. For example voting for a 3rd party or not voting (e.g. helping a republican win).

        If, on the other hand, you get involved in primaries and donate to candidates that better align with your goals, even to the point of forwarding dems that might lose in the general election then you’re not supporting republicans — you’re instead supporting the left side of the dems (and are willing to lose if you need to). The idea is similar to how the radical right wing has captured the republican party. Do the same for your position.

        What really annoys people (it pisses me the fuck off) are people that see the dems lose by a vote or two, because some fuck dem sided with the republicans, and therefore decide that both parties are the same or that their best bet is to support republicans more. Its such a lousy non-nuanced view that it just highlights why the black&white super right wing “fuck nuance” people are winning.

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          1 year ago

          What pisses me off is when someone sees Democrats find just enough no votes like fucking always and is unhappy about it, and is then greeted with “both sides! bot! russian republican troll!”

    • doshin_the_giant@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Don’t get me wrong, I don’t support republicans and won’t vote for a third party. But I completely empathize with disaffected youth voters and see where they’re coming from.

      I do vote in local elections, in fact my local party just won a special election to get one of those like-minded candidates to city council!