I think lasers are pretty wack when you think about them through this lens. A small, wand-like object in your hand can make light appear from seemingly nowhere. If it’s powerful enough it can set things on fire or blind people. Not to mention larger ones like laser cutters or the LLD, used to destroy missiles midflight. Thats sure to blow some feudal peasant minds
I live in the here and now, and I’m still baffled by wireless internet. It’s modern sorcery
Little bots screaming 1s and 0s at each other really fast at a pitch you can’t hear.
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Haha. The bots are screaming in morse codes.
I remember finding out about wireless internet from an Intel TV ad. There was somebody with a laptop, browsing internet (probably an AOL page or something like that considering the era) sitting on a chair in the middle of a stadium, with no cable to be seen.
I thought “well that’s stupid, I know you can avoid the power cable for a while if there’s a battery, but if he’s browsing the internet, there has to be a network cable”. But the ad ran over and over on TV, clearly insisting there was no cable, so I was like “hm wait…”.
Eventually I read about wireless networks somewhere a couple of weeks later, and suddenly it all made sense.
I studied RF in college and it’s still sorcery. You wanna see a cool of the dark arts? Read up on QAM…
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Honestly, I feel most things would depending on how far back you go:
If you’ve only known stairs your whole life, a lift would seem like a teleportation device.
If you’ve never even seen a wheel, a car would look like a loud metal monster.
If your whole world has been the one village you grew up in, the Internet is just plain incomprehensible.
If you’re used to making fire with a flint, a simple lighter (especially one without a flint in it) would seem like a magical device already.
Now, I’m not saying you couldn’t explain these concepts to them. People in the past where far less stupid than we often think, they just didn’t have the vast knowledge we currently rely on. But if you where to show these things to them without any context, they’d probably think you’re a witch or something
I somewhat disagree. As you said people weren’t idiots, they just lack the contextual understanding we have.
Take a car for example. Even if you’d never seen a wheel, it would surely be easy to understand how it works just by seeing a car roll by. You may not immediately understand how its moving itself but I don’t think that means you would conclude its magic. You could think it’s biological, but honestly concluding that it’s a machine doesn’t seem that unlikely to me.
Also the internet… I think most modern people just think it’s magic really.
If you’ve only known stairs your whole life, a lift would seem like a teleportation device.
I once talked to a guy on Reddit who had a version of this turned up to 11.
I don’t remember the exact times so I’ll guess but it’ll get the point across.
He boarded the New York Subway at 8:42am September 11, 2001, and got off at 8:50am.
Dude was just having a normal day walking onto that train and the next station was in a totally different dimension.
Judging from my years in networking, not only most people, but many in IT see it as magic.
Agreed, we’re still intuitive creatures. An elevator may seem otherworldly for a moment but that feeling would quickly fade once you saw the cables and pulleys causing the cab to ascend/descend. It may be one of those “I’ve never thought of that but it makes sense” sort of revelations over “this is impossible”
Especially because for most of history magic was accepted as reality by most people. So any aspect of the elevator that didn’t make sense to them, like the buttons and power, could be attributed to magic without much consternation.
Nowadays most (non-religious) people think “well there must be an explanation, I wonder how they achieved that, I’ll get to the bottom of this.” But before public schools, the scientific method, and an understanding of the natural laws, regular folk would just accept the unexplainable as magic, ghosts, demons, etc. People accepted that Hermes’ shoes just worked, or that Jesus could turn water into wine.
Humans are inquisitive creatures sure, but we’re also superstitious creatures who would often rather invent an explanation than admit we can’t explain it. And when you live in a world where even a rainbow or the stars are unexplainable, you get used to mythical explanations. You grow up with the people you love and trust giving you these explanations.
It’s the outliers who had the time and disposition — Aristotle, Newton, etc — that we celebrate today for bucking that trend. But they were the exception, not the rule. Archimedes may have spent the rest of his days studying that elevator, but 99% of his contemporaries would have said “By Zeus what a marvelous gift from the gods”, stared at it for a while, and then returned to toiling in the fields and quarries.
That was exactly the point I was trying to make
Yep. The internet is definitely magic.
Sure. It’s a machine. That moves and clearly has some sort of dragon roaring when woken up!
A lift and cars are pretty easy actually. People have messed around with mechanical tools since before the pyramids. They’d be amazed by a car for sure, but they’d understand it’s a complicated machine.
Smart phones. Not even Star Trek could predict we would all be walking around with a slab of glass that is exponentially more powerful than computers that took up entire rooms, can communicate with others sub-second via voice, images, video, or text, can access the sum total of public human knowledge at the blink of an eye, and can guide you to any location with a map for everywhere you want to go. It’s really powerful stuff and it’s in everyone’s hands.
You mean the PADD?
You know what I was thinking is weird about this the predicted tablet computers but somehow they didn’t predict emailing the files to your superior.
Sir I have finished my report, here, have my entire table computer, I’ll go get another. I can see you already have six others, but this one has my word document on it.
Although there are people where I work that actually think that’s how computers work.
I assume they mean TOS Star Trek
TOS had them too. Also, 2001 A Space Odyssey also had something even more like a modern tablet. .
Dick Tracy predicted two-way wrist radios decades ago. My Apple Watch does that plus more.
We’re getting close to 100 years on Dick Tracy, the comics started in 1931. Not even sure that was the first wrist communicator in fiction TBH.
We have sigils carved into refined rocks that can simulate the universe
Well we’d all be burned as witches, so hopefully you are bringing people forward in time, not tossing them backwards. I’d expect my time traveler to be stunned by nearly everything:
Flush toilet
Electrical anything
Telephone, speakers, TV
I took a networking course in college and loved it but you still can’t convince me that radio isn’t magic. Even knowing the mechanics of it doesn’t help - it’s so freaking crazy. Fiber optic data transmission is such an awesome technology but even that doesn’t confuse me like radio, or broadcast tv.
I’m srill convinced Electrons are just a massive conspiracy…
It’s all just magnetism! Wake up sheeple!
How Can Magnets Be Real If Our Eyes Aren’t Real?
Because birds, man.
The more time I’ve spent studying and researching new tech, the more I feel like, even to people today, our technology is magical.
I’m a medical diagnostic technologist. I understand how a CT and MRI machine work. They’re still the stuff of magic imo. A lot of people take these technologies for granted because they’re fairly prominent, but do you have any idea how a spinning magnet produces high quality, 3d images of the inside of your body? Very few people do. It’s still freaking amazing and ingenious when you do understand it. Remodeling a CT scan into a 3d render is similarly impressive. The amount of calculations that take place within the space of seconds would take years for someone to do on paper, and we do 25-30 patients a day in our one machine at my location.
AI is making a big wave in my field too. Pretty soon we may only need radiologists to oversee AI rather than having to diagnose every exam themselves. AI on our consoles will be able to diagnose before we even send our images to a rad since they’re so good at pattern recognition. Their readings have shown to be more accurate than a radiologist in some studies.
50 years ago we didn’t even have consumer computers. Now our computers can diagnose and type a pneumothorax more accurately and faster than a doctor who has spent his whole life diagnosing xrays.
I would take a pic of a middle-ages person with my phone, show it to them and tell them I stole their soul. Then I’d be beaten, hanged, burned, and drowned for witchcraft. Still, it’d be hilarious.
You’d be screaming (with laughter, and pain) all the way to the pire!
This sphere has an evil magical aura that really wants to tear your body apart. Now watch what happens when I remove the screwdriver!
That does indeed sound demonic.
Just the thought of it chills me to my Core.
l can think of one magic-technology that appeared during my lifetime:
E-Ink-Readers.
I mean, script suddenly appearing out of thin air on flat, solid surfaces? WTF?
I even studied enginering in the early 90’s and would not have been able to come up with a technological explaination if I had encountered one of those back then…
I mean sure, but…from an uninformed perspective an LCD or even a CRT monitor are going to appear just as magical, if not more so.
But that’s exactly the point.
E-Ink Displays would have been unable to explain for me from my thoroughly * informed * perspective as an HF and digital communications student.
Active displays in one form or another had been around for 50 years or so at that time. So have been practially all base technology concepts of the much mentioned smartphones. Nothing magical about an optimized version, just extrapolation.
But E-Ink? A * brand new * technology * without prior art * rapidly emerging from obscure theoretical concept to widespread use within just 15 years or so…
I am actually still a little bit awed each time I switch on one of those…
High speed rail, they would probably not believe their eyes if they saw a train going by with 300 kmh.
LOL, can you imagine the pantaloons after an F-22 Raptor does a low altitude flyby?
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Mag trains and the level of magnetism utilized today would likely be considered black magic to pre-industrial people.
or even 500kmh
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Try explaining titanium bone implants or the process of getting metallic aluminum to a Sumerian coppersmith
Especially if he’s just been sold the wrong grade of copper.
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I like that reference
Even something as simple as arc welding or an EAF would seem pretty magical. Harnessing lightning to melt metal.
Try explaining to a bronze age healer that we can fix people’s medical problems with surgery while they’re unconscious and deal with their pain afterwards with medication.
For the latter one that wouldn’t be shocking. Opium poppies because widespread crops in the Bronze Age. I’ve even heard a classicist say that it’s theoretically possible that some Bronze Age healer in Egypt could’ve developed a secret formula for painkillers that was just morphine as the non poppy ingredients were able to be harvested using the trade routes and technology of the era.
I think what might be more surprising is that we can consistently knock patients out for surgery without much risk of death and that we can stop people from dying after they’ve overdosed on opiates (though idk how hard it is to od on smoked opium).
And in the medical field try explaining to a plague doctor that the bubonic plague is a mild inconvenience to all but the poorest people today and can be cured with inexpensive pills.
Ok, fair enough. But I thought of another one- even into the 20th century, a huge number of battlefield injuries were automatic amputations. We don’t necessarily have to do that now in a lot of the same injuries.
I mean, any lcd screen. It’s a magical flat surface that can display any image. Add a battery and now it’s completely untethered and silent.
Yeah, so by extension a mobile phone.
Capture people inside your device and conjure them at any time.
If you’d never seen technology this would absolutely seem magical.
I mean we gather these black rocks called silicone and refine them, then we cut them to plates and inscribe them with microscopic runes using light and very secret mixtures. Next we use lighting on it to make it think for us.
Look at what you did. You took perfectly good sand and gave it anxiety
Even more simplistic: we take rocks and etch runes onto them, shoot them with electricity to make them think.
Also, I think you meant silicon. Silicone is what flashlights are made of… Which would also blow the minds of less advanced cultures: “You craft soft holes from rocks mixed with glues and you fuck it?”
I read some other word instead of flashlight and I almost threw up in laughter.
That other word IS what they meant!
No you read that right. My autocorrect is thinking like a Puritan sometimes.
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Smart phones. The caveat being you couldn’t take one back in time and impress them because the internet and cellular network wouldn’t be there.
I remember a great answer to this somewhere and they said a solar powered 4 function calculator is the simplest thing we have today that would blow people’s minds. You really don’t even need a scientific one to achieve the effect. Apart from the obvious (quick math, LCD display, and solar power) it also uses plastic.
You don’t need a network to make a smartphone black magic. Just taking pictures is enough, but also single player games, calculators, word processors, image editors, music players, really any non-networked application is still magic to pre-computer people.
Well, for like a day or two then the battery dies! But yeah, it would still be impressive, I’m not saying it wouldn’t. A time traveler must always ask themselves how long they intend on visiting!
You can bring a solar panel with you to keep it charged if you have a long visit of convincing people you’re magic planned.
