Hello Users of Hexbear I wanted to have a featured post discussing the next
steps for federation. We have discussed this at length among the mod team, and
it is pretty much evenly split between federating based on a "block-list" or
federating based on an "allow-list". While the mod team slightly skewed in favor
of federating using a block-list, meaning that any instance not specifically
blocked will be able to link with hexbear.net, we will be starting with an
allow-list. What this means is that only instances specifically on our
allow-list will be able to link with us, there are a few reasons for this. We
wanted to slowly integrate into the fediverse to see what it would mean for
hexbear.net's culture as well as how we fit into the wider fediverse. We also
wanted to ensure that we did not link with any instance that does not block
threads, or does not block the reactionary/fash/pedo instances.
I was honestly suprised to discover that most lemmy instances block lemmygrad.ml
but do not block the reactionary/pedo instances, sad. Here is a tenative list of
what our allow-list would look like: https://pathofexile-discuss.com/instances ,
https://possumpat.io/instances , https://lemmy.ml/instances ,
https://sopuli.xyz/instances , https://discuss.tchncs.de/instances ,
https://lemmygrad.ml/instances , https://mander.xyz/ , https://lemm.ee/ ,
toots.matapocos.dog a block-list would be massive and exhaustive to ensure that
we do not federate with any pornographic, reactionary, fascist, racist,
homophobic, transphobic, or csam-adjacent instances. We will be creating a
pinned post in c/hexbear where additional instances can be nominated for
addition to the allow-list. https://www.hexbear.net/post/277506 Please see these
previous posts by Nagarjuna regarding federation:
https://www.hexbear.net/post/273407 and https://www.hexbear.net/post/273404 If
you would like to officially put down your opinion on federation, please make a
comment with a ⬛️ if you'd like to federate based on a block-list, a ⬜️ if you'd
like to federate based on an allow-list, or a 🚫 if you do not with to federate
at all. Thank you and as usual off-topic comments will be removed.
Hexbear is far more likely to have users entering and using our comms, being another large socialist instance, albeit dedicated to left unity rather than Marxism like ourselves. I think there is enough of a culture change that we need to have a pinned post for hexbear users coming here explaining what kind of content/attitudes they might see here/what different rules to follow
There should also be a section dedicated to explaining to lemmygrad users to respect hexbear comm rules and what to expect from their users etc.
I think this would help ease any potential cross site struggle sessions
I was around for the original r/ChapoTrapHouse from which Hexbear eventually spawned. I posted regularly and spent a lot of time there. After they got banned from reddit, they were on discord for a while, where I became a regular poster in the trans channels, and there’s some old bitterness between the entire trans community of that era and Hexbear, with 90% of us (the trans community) being banned for complaining about a moderator who was grooming in the subcommunity. On top of that, this moderator was put in place to moderate this community under the widespread assumption that he was trans, when he was actually cis. That mod was left in place (he was popular mod outside of the trans community) and I don’t know if he’s still there, but almost all of the trans community that wasn’t banned left to join a splinter server. It was clear the moderation didn’t give a shit about us (other than planting a spy in the our server and giving sudden bans to people who supported new administation in an upcoming leadership vote).
It’s an ancient beef by now, but I deeply distrust them. If they want to come by with genuine apologies, sure, I’m in favor. But I’m not holding my breath. It’s no for me (See below). And I hate to say it because I loved the shitposting and the good times we had
Nah, publicly is fine. I posted publicly, after all. Hearing that guy is gone is encouraging, and that most of the mod team is trans is as well. You actually can undo some of the damage directed at me personally by checking your discord logs and reviewing my ban. Violated rules once, punished twice for it, many months apart. FWIW, the other lemmy members who are hexbear refugees that I’ve spoken to barely remember the details, so maybe it’s all water under the bridge. I’ll clear my no vote, because it sounds like leadership has changed hands and being cordial and soliciting criticism is the most I’ve gotten from any mod there in the past
Just to say I’m one of the others who was around for that ‘lifeboat’ server and left at the same time. I don’t recall if they banned me, or if I just left in disgust at how they were treating us, along with you know… having a gods damned groomer for a mod and trying to spin it as us being anti-furry bigots.
In any case, assuming those people are in fact gone then I’m whatever. Trying not to care about online drama so much now.
Wow holy shit hadn’t heard about this in particular, sorry you had to deal with that comrade. Explains why there was so much struggle about trans people early on in hexbear, especially when it was named chapo.chat from what I can tell (wasn’t there for any of this, but I’ve seen several posts about it pop up when I’ve searched for other things)
for what it’s worth the strict moderation, pronoun tag and lack of downvotes seems to have mostly fixed it, although I’m not trans so I can’t say for certain
I was around for the original r/ChapoTrapHouse from which Hexbear eventually spawned. I posted regularly and spent a lot of time there. After they got banned from reddit, they were on discord for a while, where I became a regular poster in the trans channels, and there’s some old bitterness between the entire trans community of that era and Hexbear, with 90% of us (the trans community) being banned for complaining about a moderator who was grooming in the subcommunity. On top of that, this moderator was put in place to moderate this community under the widespread assumption that he was trans, when he was actually cis. That mod was left in place (he was popular mod outside of the trans community) and I don’t know if he’s still there, but almost all of the trans community that wasn’t banned left to join a splinter server. It was clear the moderation didn’t give a shit about us (other than planting a spy in the our server and giving sudden bans to people who supported new administation in an upcoming leadership vote).
It’s an ancient beef by now, but I deeply distrust them. If they want to come by with genuine apologies, sure, I’m in favor.
But I’m not holding my breath. It’s no for me(See below). And I hate to say it because I loved the shitposting and the good times we haddeleted by creator
Nah, publicly is fine. I posted publicly, after all. Hearing that guy is gone is encouraging, and that most of the mod team is trans is as well. You actually can undo some of the damage directed at me personally by checking your discord logs and reviewing my ban. Violated rules once, punished twice for it, many months apart. FWIW, the other lemmy members who are hexbear refugees that I’ve spoken to barely remember the details, so maybe it’s all water under the bridge. I’ll clear my no vote, because it sounds like leadership has changed hands and being cordial and soliciting criticism is the most I’ve gotten from any mod there in the past
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Just to say I’m one of the others who was around for that ‘lifeboat’ server and left at the same time. I don’t recall if they banned me, or if I just left in disgust at how they were treating us, along with you know… having a gods damned groomer for a mod and trying to spin it as us being anti-furry bigots.
In any case, assuming those people are in fact gone then I’m whatever. Trying not to care about online drama so much now.
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Wow holy shit hadn’t heard about this in particular, sorry you had to deal with that comrade. Explains why there was so much struggle about trans people early on in hexbear, especially when it was named chapo.chat from what I can tell (wasn’t there for any of this, but I’ve seen several posts about it pop up when I’ve searched for other things)
for what it’s worth the strict moderation, pronoun tag and lack of downvotes seems to have mostly fixed it, although I’m not trans so I can’t say for certain
Yeah, this was the chapo.chat -> earliest HexBear days