Very easy actually, because they do not live the struggle they can easily say do this or do that but they don’t really know what it’s happening, just today a young girl, 12 yo, was raped by one of this immigrants, the crime rate went up a lot
Absolutely not only the one who do something wrong, as some as they are found guilty, seams reasonable enough to me, no?
Unfortunately that would be the majority, but would make my country a better place
I think you missed the point there, they were talking about all men. If deportation prevents rape, that should, by your logic, endorse deporting any and all rapists. Also let’s throw in there that rapists come in all genders, so basically prevention through group deportation would leave us with a pretty empty country. (And who would take us in, then, as that would make us migrants ourselves?)
Edit: I am unsure if I interpreted your comment as intended - with “only the one who do something wrong”, were you refering to the sentenced migrants, or the sentenced men in general?
I was referring to migrants, if a man of my country rape i will gladly escort him to jail personally.
But if an illigal migrant does it why should we keep him, just give him back.
They are only 8% of our population and they commit 36% of the crimes, police report as of 2015.
Npw they are more like 10% and the crime rate skyrocketed
A lot of other aspects aside, “giving him back” (which is weirdly objectifying of migrants, as if people were the property of any nation) could in many cases easily equate to issuing a death sentence. For me, that is reason enough - but I suppose your overall view on the right to live might differ.
A while ago a guy was punched to death for being gay by a group of people with the same political opinions as you. Does that mean that you should be immediately deprived of your human rights? You can not compare every single inmigrant to something that happened one day.
You don’t live what we live so I don’t think you can understand
And I live in Europe and it is very much not true.
Stop watching scaremongering news. It’s not that bad.
Well I see what I see and I don’t like it, a random stranger on the internet who thinks he’s morally superior to me will not make me change idea
…is talking from my personal experience living around immigrants and minorities in an European country “acting morally superior” now?
c’mon.
why would living in a different part of the world effect one’s morality?
Very easy actually, because they do not live the struggle they can easily say do this or do that but they don’t really know what it’s happening, just today a young girl, 12 yo, was raped by one of this immigrants, the crime rate went up a lot
rape is wrong, nothing changes that. Men rape women, do you want to deport all men?
Absolutely not only the one who do something wrong, as some as they are found guilty, seams reasonable enough to me, no? Unfortunately that would be the majority, but would make my country a better place
I think you missed the point there, they were talking about all men. If deportation prevents rape, that should, by your logic, endorse deporting any and all rapists. Also let’s throw in there that rapists come in all genders, so basically prevention through group deportation would leave us with a pretty empty country. (And who would take us in, then, as that would make us migrants ourselves?)
Edit: I am unsure if I interpreted your comment as intended - with “only the one who do something wrong”, were you refering to the sentenced migrants, or the sentenced men in general?
I was referring to migrants, if a man of my country rape i will gladly escort him to jail personally. But if an illigal migrant does it why should we keep him, just give him back. They are only 8% of our population and they commit 36% of the crimes, police report as of 2015. Npw they are more like 10% and the crime rate skyrocketed
A lot of other aspects aside, “giving him back” (which is weirdly objectifying of migrants, as if people were the property of any nation) could in many cases easily equate to issuing a death sentence. For me, that is reason enough - but I suppose your overall view on the right to live might differ.
A while ago a guy was punched to death for being gay by a group of people with the same political opinions as you. Does that mean that you should be immediately deprived of your human rights? You can not compare every single inmigrant to something that happened one day.
When did I talk about the LGBTQ+ community? Obviously that is bad, you should not kill someone based on their sexual preference
obviously you are in the italian fedi istance, lmfao… fratm, io sono senza parole…
I joined this server because it was free unlike the official instance, with the people coming from reddit