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    • Edgerunner Alexis@dataterm.digitalEnglish
      2523·
      1 year ago

      Here are some mod logs from lemmy.ml (which is an instance run by the Lemmy devs) from a few years ago: https://raddle.me/f/TankiesGonnaTank/89852/the-lemmy-ml-admin-is-banning-anyone-that-mentions-stalin-or

      Here’s one of the Lemmy devs (you can tell it’s them from their profile activity) denying genocide: https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/xq49ct/deleted_by_user/iq954mu/

      Insisting that fascists are good, actually not fascists at all, as long as their nationalism makes them oppose the US (because the enemy of my enemy is a totally good guy!): https://old.reddit.com/r/DebateCommunism/comments/vgg2x3/thoughts_on_slavoj_zizek/id2cxb8/

      There’s more here: https://raddle.me/f/lobby/159606/-/comment/294792

      • kadu@lemmy.worldEnglish
        323·
        1 year ago

        But are you suggesting this somehow impacts Lemmy? It’s an open backbone that anybody can use to create an instance - in fact, by default each modlog is open, could you do the same and link the moderator actions /u/spez took in 2018? Could you create your own Reddit and defederate half of the content if you wanted to?

        As I see it, Lemmy’s creators made their own instance to share their political views - that’s it, of course they control the rules over there. They also made their technology public so that I can type out this comment on Lemmy.world, which follows a completely different set of rules.

        • blightbow@kbin.social
          144·
          1 year ago

          But are you suggesting this somehow impacts Lemmy?

          Mostly irrelevant in this context, because the topic at hand is the developer denying that they condone these practices and insisting that it is a manufactured narrative. You are replying to a rebuttal of this.

          Your opinion is a completely fair one to have, but we don’t need to shift the conversation back to it every time someone provides a rebuttal to “the dev never actually said that” with receipts.

        • Edgerunner Alexis@dataterm.digitalEnglish
          65·
          1 year ago

          Yeah I know, I don’t think them being tankies is really a problem for Lemmy as a whole. I was just annoyed that all they had to say is “no we aren’t tankies” and people just took them at their word lol

          • blightbow@kbin.social
            85·
            1 year ago

            all they had to say is “no we aren’t tankies” and people just took them at their word lol

            IMO it’s a little more cynical than that, they rephrased the narrative into one that they could cleanly reject and be quoted on. As others have pointed out, it is almost a certainty that 1) they do not consider themselves or their ideology to be fascist, and 2) they aren’t supporting genocide if they do not acknowledge that the peoples in question are actually subject to genocide.

            Edit: …Which you’ve already affirmed in one of your previous comments, my bad.

        • Widget@kbin.social
          613·
          1 year ago

          I guess it kinda matters in that people like me certainly won’t be giving any code contributions, which for an open source project can be critical to its long-term health.

          But devs also tolerate and use tons of code and the licenses that Richard Stallman wrote, even if he’s a huge creepball that a bunch of other free software orgs had to back away from.

          So we’ll see. I also wouldn’t rule out a fork of it just so that it’s officially ran by a less controversial group.

      • Krause [he/him]English
        108·
        1 year ago

        Insisting that fascists are good, actually not fascists at all, as long as their nationalism makes them oppose the US

        Where did they say that? Are you just counting on people not reading the shit you’re linking?

        I don’t expect good faith engagement from people who go around slandering others like this but this is a new low.

        Users left Reddit but brought with them the horrible attitude that contributed to ruining that site…