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Orbit currently uses a version of Mistral LLM (Mistral 7B) that is locally hosted on Mozilla’s Google Cloud Platform instance.
Hmm.
>locally hosted
>Google Cloud
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Sounds like they’re running their own LLM instance on googles cloud infrastructure vs using something like OpenAI via API.
As web dev parlance it makes sense but for marketing it is definitely confusing and they should do better.
Yeah, we “self-host” our app at AWS at work, which means we configure everything ourselves. I “self-host” a VPS at Hetzner for personal projects, and my actual data is actually self-hosted on a machine on my LAN.
Remember how the cloud is someone else’s server? Now you can buy it (or lease) and bring it home, and it becomes only sorta someone else’s.
Amazon and Azure offer their own on-prem products.
“Locally hosted” means it’s running on the local host. In this case, that would mean on the same computer running Firefox.
Calling something that is only accessible over the internet “locally hosted” is outrageous doublespeak.
Why does it mean that?
Why does local mean local? I’m not sure I understand your question.
If they had said “locally hosted in our datacenter” would you be confused why they didn’t move a rack into your house?
My question is why are you projecting your limited interpretation as a global truth?
In IT context local is a well establised term. It’s either hosted locally, i. e. on machine running the browser or not. A datacenter or cloud are remote machines also by the same well established definition.
Ok, now do your own datacenter vs cloud.
If they had said “locally hosted in our datacenter”
Then that would also be an oxymoron.
Local is the opposite of remote. This is a remote server. Remote servers are not local. This is not a matter of interpretation.
It is, actually. It is local to them, it is remote to you. They are differentiating from a remote server in someone else’s datacenter. It is not that confusing.
lol, I think we’re giving too little credit to the marketing people in tech. I want to read their blogs!
It just started and already have buzzwords floating around
https://orbitbymozilla.com/terms
4. Content
A. Content You Share
By using the Services, you represent that you will only share material (including Inputs) that you own and/or have the legal right to share and sublicense to others, including without limitation, content and data contained in any web-page shared through the Services to generate Outputs. When you submit your own content through the Services, you continue to own the rights to that content. You grant Mozilla a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, sub-license, prepare derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display the Inputs for the purpose of operating the Services.
AI you can trust
Lost me there
Easily summarize emails
Haha “Give us access to all your emails for data and corporate espionage we pwomise nothing bad will be done with it!”
I sent in a support ticket asking them to save Firefox and stop all this AI bullshit
I’m sure their support appreciates that a lot.
I hope they do
Yeah, there is a lot they can do about it.
Email their CEOs or some shit instead.
“Yeah sorry boss, i didn’t actually read the email, instead i had an AI summarize it for me and it got a key detail wrong. Anyway what’s a couple thousand dollars in lost sales right”
why are they promoting web-based mail when their email solution is thunderbird?
Thunderbird is more a community project that’s outside of Mozilla’s jurisdiction at this point
Thunderbird is built by a for-profit subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, it just isn’t the Mozilla Corporation.
Thunderbird is an independent, community-driven project that is managed and overseen by the Thunderbird Council, which is elected by the Thunderbird Community.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird
No. It’s not.
Edit: sort of is, under a subsidiary called MZLA but still seems more independent from mozilla and their shenanigans (I hope)
That changed in 2020: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/01/thunderbirds-new-home/
Wiki truth
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What’s the sentence before that one?
Here, read the latest news: https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-moves-to-monetize-thunderbird-transfers-project-to-new-subsidiary/
Never wondered why Thunderbird donations aren’t tax deductible?
OK… Now what actionable thing can I do with this info? Use outlook? What good would that do?
I want firefox to exist to create a good browser and thunderbird to exist for a good email client. Is that too much to ask?
I don’t think you need to do anything different. Sometimes when I learn new things I say “oh, interesting.”
Fair nuff. Sometimes it’s just overwhelming getting information of something I can’t do anything by. Like oh great another thing that’s going wrong rn… Woo hoo
Fuck off
Well that’s disappointing.
Just add it onto the pile of all the other stupid stuff Mozilla is doing I guess.
Not available on mobile, which is sad. I consume 99% of my internet via mobile devices.
If you install it from a file, everything else seems to work except dragging it around.
Thanks for the heads up.
I find it kind of suspicious that the extension (the fake spot one to) are proprietary.
It is but it’s also natural for them, they’re slowly transitioning to a closed source company like all the other big tech companies. The hope is that we don’t notice, or that those of us who do notice are a small minority who can be stomped out or discredited by those who don’t notice or are in their pocket.
Reddit too used to be open source, they’re not anymore. This shit does happen, regardless of what anyone says.
Prob not Privcy focusing extension
Booooooooo
and another one bites the dust heyhey
emails
If you can’t spell a topic properly, I strongly doubt your ability to manage it. Simple-as.
Um, where’s the spelling mistake?
If you don’t capitalize Internet and spell it as E-mail you are incorrect!!!
