If you’re ever in Chicago go to Wrigley. It’s amazing what a sports stadium can be. For real, you get off the train, walk like a block, go through the entrance, and you can see the field. It’s amazing and every new stadium should use it as an example.
That’s how most stadiums are here in Australia, you just gotta use public transport. I cannot imagine the hell it would be trying to get out of a car park like the one in this post.
When everyone tries to leave at once it’s just about the worst driving scenario possible.
That gives me a notion. Maybe it’s possible to get team owners on board supporting public transit, by pointing out that the reason people don’t stay for the whole game is to avoid traffic.
Nah team owners don’t care. They’re only making money from the tv deal, concessions and gate fees. They cut off concessions before the end of the game, tickets are bought before the game and the TV deal doesn’t matter what traffic looks like. There’s no advantage for owners to keep people at the games longer.
Adelaide used to have a shit 1970s style football stadium in the burbs. It wasn’t serviced by rail because it was in one of our first huge lifeless US style suburban developments. Cheap reclaimed swamp land, car-centric, no mixed zoning, no character, no local services. The stadium only appeared to have a green surround because they were too cheap to seal the car park.
Special bus routes ran on game days but busses suck compared with trains for moving high volumes. I think most people drove. I went to a few games and concerts there. Crowds were notorious for leaving the football games in the middle of the last quarter because it took so long to get out of the car parks and surrounding roads. Crowds generally maxed out at 55k. Adelaide oval is only a couple of thousand less capacity and surrounded by parklands in the middle of the city, with a foot bridge to the train station across the river. I don’t know why that took decades to figure out.
@PhilthyHabits@JackbyDev Melbourne’s big stadiums do have substantial car parks, but they are also a short walk from at least 1 central train station with ~10 platforms.
Same with the stadiums in Portland. The energy on the trains can be a blast. It’s part of the whole experience. Unless you’re exhausted from the event. Then it can be a drag sometimes
If you’re ever in Chicago go to Wrigley. It’s amazing what a sports stadium can be. For real, you get off the train, walk like a block, go through the entrance, and you can see the field. It’s amazing and every new stadium should use it as an example.
That’s how most stadiums are here in Australia, you just gotta use public transport. I cannot imagine the hell it would be trying to get out of a car park like the one in this post.
When everyone tries to leave at once it’s just about the worst driving scenario possible.
That gives me a notion. Maybe it’s possible to get team owners on board supporting public transit, by pointing out that the reason people don’t stay for the whole game is to avoid traffic.
Nah team owners don’t care. They’re only making money from the tv deal, concessions and gate fees. They cut off concessions before the end of the game, tickets are bought before the game and the TV deal doesn’t matter what traffic looks like. There’s no advantage for owners to keep people at the games longer.
Depends… people might buy more food if they stay longer and there doesn’t need to be a designated driver so mkre people can buy the overpriced beer.
Same in NZ
Most stadiums don’t have a public carpark - or a very small one. Free busses with your ticket.
Adelaide used to have a shit 1970s style football stadium in the burbs. It wasn’t serviced by rail because it was in one of our first huge lifeless US style suburban developments. Cheap reclaimed swamp land, car-centric, no mixed zoning, no character, no local services. The stadium only appeared to have a green surround because they were too cheap to seal the car park.
Special bus routes ran on game days but busses suck compared with trains for moving high volumes. I think most people drove. I went to a few games and concerts there. Crowds were notorious for leaving the football games in the middle of the last quarter because it took so long to get out of the car parks and surrounding roads. Crowds generally maxed out at 55k. Adelaide oval is only a couple of thousand less capacity and surrounded by parklands in the middle of the city, with a foot bridge to the train station across the river. I don’t know why that took decades to figure out.
@PhilthyHabits @JackbyDev Melbourne’s big stadiums do have substantial car parks, but they are also a short walk from at least 1 central train station with ~10 platforms.
@PhilthyHabits @JackbyDev What’s my point? Australian stadiums are better than the worst examples from the US, but they aren’t fantastic.
It is hell, and in the US people still defend it like it’s the best way to do it😖
Same with the stadiums in Portland. The energy on the trains can be a blast. It’s part of the whole experience. Unless you’re exhausted from the event. Then it can be a drag sometimes