• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    Why do people hate on Java so much, I think it’s a great language.

    Do you use Java at work?

    Fuck no, I want to stay sane.

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      I work with Java. And I’m definitely ‘rose tinted glasses’ because I also learned to code in Java. But I’m the opposite.

      Do you use Java at home?

      Fuck no, I want to stay sane.

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      To me, Java feels nice and homely. Like coming home to your family over Christmas. Of course your parents aren’t quite with the times any more and a bit racist, which always makes for a nice discussion with your sister’s Hispanic husband. And there’s always uncle bob, who gets way too drunk and starts hitting on your wife. Your sister usually tries to get you to invest in her latest MLM scheme and the food tastes like seasoned cardboard. But it’s always warm and welcoming. Luckily it’s only for the holidays.

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      A lot of people misapply OOP principles, causing them to come up with stuff like ThingFactoryFactory, or the things Enterprise FizzBuzz parodies.

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    That laser at the end should have been Java Technology™ ;

    You point it at anything, and end up with a huge dumpster fire… Sounds like Java to me

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    Whoa the disrespect. The way she threw away C++ haha

    Also, the whole thing was next-level cringe

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      Yeah they almost fixed the need to compile and run with the exact same jdk version.

      The rest still applies

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          Not now, not most of the time anyway. I did say mostly fixed

          That was not the case back with Java 6 ish. Even massive breakage between minor releases was common. you had to tell everybody exactly which jre to use and possibly ship it with your software

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    I use a Java backend with a React frontend at work. It works fine with us and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

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    I first learned about Java in the late 90s and it sounded fantastic. “Write once, run anywhere!” Great!

    After I got past “Hello world!” and other simple text output tutorials, things took a turn for the worse. It seemed like if you wanted to do just about anything beyond producing text output with compile-time data (e.g. graphics, sound, file access), you needed to figure out what platform and which edition/version of Java your program was being run on, so you could import the right libraries and call the right functions with the right parameters. I guess that technically this was still “write once, run anywhere”.

    After that, I learned just enough Java to squeak past a university project that required it, then promptly forgot all of it.

    I feel like Sun was trying to hit multiple moving targets at the same time, and failing to land a solid hit on any of them. They were laser-focused on portable binaries, but without standardized storage or multimedia APIs at a time when even low-powered devices were starting to come with those capabilities. I presume that things are better now, but I’ve never been tempted to have another look. Even just trying to get my machines set up to run other people’s Java programs has been enough to keep me away.

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      It doesn’t help that they keep deprecating and changing standard stuff every other version. It’s like they can’t make up their mind and everything may be subject to change. Updating to the most recent release can suddenly cause 10s or 100s of compiler warnings/errors and things may no longer behave the same. Then you look up the new documentation and realize that you have to refactor a large part of the codebase because the “new way” is for whatever reason vastly different.

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        Can you give some examples? I’m my experience Java has been pretty easy to upgrade to new versions. 9 was a bit wacky but that was it. It’s definitely been less of a headache than worrying about using Python 2 versus 3, for example.