RE: Episode 164: The Sultana Disaster

Y’all, why take the time to shit on Venezuela’s election? Why swallow the white western pill every single time? I thought they were smarter than this.

I feel like every episode they get shittier, and have been for years.

  • Thorngraff_Ironbeard [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    51·
    3 months ago

    I stomached a lot of Alice and Liam’s brain dead takes about AES and the Soviet Union because I enjoyed the show. the final nail for me was the episode right after the Hamas operation where they said Israel should be given the benefit of the doubt for directly bombing a hospital because they probably didn’t mean to.

    • mustGo [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      23·
      3 months ago

      I tried to give the show another chance recently and 1h in Alice started seriously equating China to amerikkka

      • Thorngraff_Ironbeard [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        7·
        3 months ago

        I can’t speak for WTYP because I haven’t listened to it since then but on Trashfuture Alice and the rest have acknowledged the genocide, however they do the “Hamas murdered innocent people thing, but Israel is way worse”. Maybe they’ve changed their tune seeing as Israel has destroyed dozens of hospitals since then but the fact that they were willing to follow the “it was a Hamas rocket” narrative at all was sickening to me.

        • FloridaBoi [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          10·
          3 months ago

          I think that little Nate producer ecosystem of WTYP, TF and others is incredibly sus. I’ve listened to almost all of them and they’re anti-Soviet and anti-AES and almost always regurgitate some state department bullshit

          • Thorngraff_Ironbeard [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            8·
            3 months ago

            Thankfully TF mostly doesn’t mention AES and they stock dunking on techbros and startups. You’ll catch a stray from time to time for course, like during the pandemic Milo said China was doing lockdowns because their vaccine doesn’t work(?).

        • FloridaBoi [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          I think that little Nate producer ecosystem of WTYP, TF and others is incredibly sus. I’ve listened to almost all of them and they’re anti-Soviet and anti-AES and almost always regurgitate some state department bullshit

        • Des [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          ugh.

          when the protests happened they did get giddy about “hamas red triangles” and have spoken highly of the resistance footage of them owning the IDF

          this was more recently though so maybe they have changed their opinions. generally they seem to lean heavily into lib-brained opinion and slowly come around long after the rest of modern communists have

          admittedly for the first week after the 7th i was unsure whether to support what hamas did (but didn’t believe any of the BS about wanton murder/rape) mostly because i didn’t know the history enough as well as thought they were just inviting terrible retribution and thought that was reckless. didn’t take long to educate myself and fall in with the correct “party line”.

          i guess the biggest crime for the WTYP crew is that they are probably just too lazy to really learn about what they are talking about (they admit this frequently). twitter + “creator” brain